[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by handy guy

The "Self" as pointed to in the Upanishads and other related teachings can gain nothing nor loose nothing,
yet with the mind and soul something can be gained or lost...

Thus we have many billions of years of one lifetime of Lord Brahma and creation
(that also repeat over and over endlessly) of evolutionary processes with great suffering and joy of soul
that begin and end back to the non-evolution of the Self...

is anyone wondering about this scenario? the Self sure isn't....

Nope, not wondering. Would it have the same meaning to help newbies
if this said...''yet with the individualized mind and soul something can be gained or lost"?

Speaking of repetition, it helped my understanding when I read Gary Renard's book,
"The Disappearance of the Universe", when he described our lives
repeating and repeating as being similar to us
watching a movie over and over.
Oh.

(He added that each time we still have that free will choice to
change our reaction within the movie...thus, be released from that repetition.
Eventually, awakening out of the dream - ha, different than just awakening from the dream,
ie, realizing this is a dream or illusion...and
Hindus would say Brahma's dream.)