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Old 15-06-2020, 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by JustASimpleGuy
Perhaps a better way to frame it is there's the permanent and unchanging and there's the impermanent and changing, the prior having independent existence and the latter dependent existence. The prior doesn't negate nor diminish the latter
Yeah, I think that is better. Nothing is a state of quiescent mind / consciousness, and while it remains quiescent, there is no change. Forms on the other hand, in accordance with the laws of thermodynamics are always changing, always moving from low to high entropy. Now when it stirs to create forms, in a sense nothing changes as something arises from that nothing, but form always decays back into that nothing from which it came so there is a certain permanence in the backdrop of nothing from which every thing must arise and eventually return to. And certainly, no things, physical things anyway, are permanent.

I agree, neither negates or diminishes the other. In fact, when you think about it, they seem to depend on each other. Kind of like music. The notes are necessary, but so is the background of silence against which the notes are heard. Both the vibrations and the stillness are necessary to make music. Both the forms, and the background of formlessness are necessary to create a picture. Changing forms against the background of the unchanging formless consciousness, are necessary to create the experience of time.
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