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Old 16-01-2020, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BigJohn
The difference between a century and a millennia is only a factor of 10.
Hello John. In fact, I only ever said "centuries" and that certainly also means millenia. Why is it so important to you that you take an oppositional position? I do understand the time frame and we're all allowed to phrase things as we like.

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There are numerous scriptures in the Hebrew text that says people did call upon the name of Yahweh. In Genesis 4:26(b), that scripture claims people began calling on the name of Yahweh. The scripture reads "At that time people began to call on the name of the Lord." In Hebrew, the Lord mentioned is Yahweh.

There is a huge array of scriptures in which people were calling on the name of the Lord (Yahweh). As I mentioned in my previous post, the various diasporas probably played a major role in that of not using the LORD's name. There were other periods in which the name of Yahweh was not mentioned. 1 and 2 Kings was a dark period when it came to not using Yahweh's name. Then toward the end of 2 Kings, they came to the realization of their error. They were surprised that they were worshiping even the wrong God!.

In the previous post, I asked the question, if we had to go thru such diasporas the Jews went thru, how would we react in that of the usage of the name of Yahweh? Some claim during those time periods, is when the name of Yahweh stopped being spoken and in some cases even written, but it does not mean what was done was right. There was actually no scriptural reason to stop using the name of the LORD which is Yahweh.

Being people in the past called upon the name of Yahweh, and the name is still in the Hebrew Bibles, there is no scriptural reason not to use the name. Then why do some believe the name should not be used?

In 1 and 2 Kings, a reformation occurred with the final outcome being that people realized they were worshiping the wrong God, changed their ways, and began calling upon Yahweh.

People are commanded to use the name of Yahweh. Being there is no reason why they can not today, then they should restore the usage of the name to its original position.

John, I am not the speech police and my position is that folks can say what they like and take ownership for it. You can certainly say whatever you like and it's fine by me. Just take ownership for it.
So why would I have any issue with your right to phrase things as you like OR with whatever name you use for "God" or Oneness?

As I said, I am only relaying the Jewish tradition and presenting the facts, which is that YHVH is not pronounced and has not been for a long, long time (centuries, millenia, etc).
Normally RabbiO would come in here and make the post but he's not always on so I just put it out there.

Why does it matter to you that Jews don't pronounce YHVH? Instead, we typically read it aloud as "Adonai". It's just a longstanding tradition, not a "right v. wrong".
Adonai thus becomes more personal through longstanding use and YHVH (I am that I am) is more ephemeral and mystical, being unpronounced.
Who knows? Maybe one day we will reintroduce pronunciation of YHVH but it's not in use at this time.

TBH ritual observance is my least favourite aspect of religious tradition and I am not observant. But many aspects of tradition are meaningful and woven into the culture, so I try to be considerate of these longstanding traditions.

You do as you like. Christians have various ways of pronouncing it and you can pick whichever you prefer.

Peace & blessings
7L
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