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Originally Posted by JustASimpleGuy
My experience is any technique can transcend the technique and that's the meditative state. Prior to that it's practice.
At some point subject and object merge or are no longer distinguishable. That's when time falls out as in a particularly fruitful sitting that seems to end just after it begins. It's like a flow state. In Patanjali's Yoga Sutras that merging of subject and object is the first level of Samadhi.
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Are they trying to get to a first state of samadhi and then try for the second state and so forth, or are they aware of 'this state' just as it is now?