[neil]

Originally Posted by iamthat

The process of grief for someone who dies of natural causes may be very different to the grief for someone who has committed suicide.

All my immediate family members have died of natural causes, and I have felt little grief, just gratitude that their passings were relatively quick.

Suicide, however, is usually sudden and unexpected, and it often leaves many unanswered questions. Those left behind may have had no warning and no time to prepare themselves mentally or emotionally. Except in cases such as euthanasia, there is often the sense of a promising life cut short. And those grieving may be filled with guilt or shock or remorse for not having done something different to prevent it happening, and this guilt/shock/remorse adds to the burden of their grief. And at some level, those grieving a suicide may feel anger that the person has done such an act, leaving others to clear up the mess. This all makes grief for a suicide quite different to grief for a death from natural causes.

Peace

If you want to refer to it as suicide..ok, yes it is sudden but so is an out of body experience. But that does not cause grief. Grief is a false concept. and grief is caused by unseen dark entities that are connected to an Earthling before & after the liberation from the flesh. Believe it or not.

And these dark ones will continue to use their powers of the mind, to create & cause the emotions of grief and or anger from a minute manner or to a completely debilitating manner of state of mind within us, Even after the liberation from flesh.

If one has not seen the untold numbers of nasty minded beings that surround & influence the mind & body of an Earthling. Then it can be completely impossible to fathom...I continuously experience it myself, and witnessed it in others.

The instant disconnection from the flesh causes zero grief. The person simply moves away from the flesh.
And just because they were lets say, hit by a speeding train, it does not mean that, that event would cause any more grief than simply passing due to natural causes. The spiritual body of a person hit by a speeding train would remember none of the impact, because the ability to process information in such an event, because such an event happens so very quickly, and the self is instantly disconnected from the flesh.

However a person who is conscious & passes slowly will have more ability to store memories of their disconnection. But in a few moments after their disconnection, they will soon realize that they are now free of the constraints & harshness of the Earth life. And will start to cheer.

A person who does not realize that they are now free & abundant in life. Well that person is being discretely deceived into feeling grief or anxiousness by dark minded nasty spiritual beings.
And the only way to dislodge these nasty ones, is to seek help from very capable radiant persons, within the lesser Heavens of love & light. Such persons are well versed with these issues.
And in the instant that these beings are dislodged from the self, well the Soul'self can become so very youthful & radiant in accordance to the quality of one's Soul'self.
The more pure loving a person becomes, then the more youthful, radiant & abundant one becomes.

To refer to the liberation from the flesh as "death" well then death is our friend, no matter how it comes about. However. what is not our friend, are the dark evil minded ones that discretely connect to us & cause grief, anxieties, anger etc within us before & or after our liberation from the flesh.

As per usual, all of the above is simply for anyones considerations.