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Originally Posted by TheOracle
or that a grain of sand contains the whole universe, because if the universe is consciousness, then it can be shaped into a manifestation of thought.
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We would be better off saying grain of sand is part of universe and it is capable to create wonders (say create a storm ) if universe consciousness acts through it . You can see mirage in desert and it can fool us also .
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Originally Posted by TheOracle
In the end, the alchemists win  continuing to worship the universe as they had been and the scientists =  |
Conflict between alchemists and scientists is more of European historical context . And that has been a fact many places /periods of time.
But that does not mean there is necessarily a conflict and there is one looser and one winner . If u study history the winner has always been the one whose on the side of the reality/ universe consciousness. And we can differentiate them as real /fake alchemists / scientists.
If u see title of a newton's book
Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica , it contains philosophy and not science. People even tell newton was alchemist . So there is not real difference between alchemist and scientists .
World is made of spirit and matter . Alchemists approach reality from spirit side and scientists approach reality for matter side . The goal of both is same to discover the understanding of the world/universe. Both have the tremendous onus to prove their convictions to the world through disciplined logic , efforts and passion that their inferences/axioms reflect reality and its in the interests of world to follow it . World sooner or later has to follow it for its own benefit.