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Old 30-12-2020, 07:37 AM
Miharo Miharo is offline
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Hello irisa,

sorry I’m this late, I saw your comment just yesterday.
Thank you for sharing your deeply personal experiences.
Like you wrote, it speaks for 12th house placements, to feel safe here on this forum, as you can somehow be open and hidden at the same time.

Pluto surely can mean traumatic experiences and as you said it, the 12th represents also the time before birth, when we where in our mother’s womb. So planets here can indicate some trauma or loss, for the chart holder or as events which deeply affected the mother while being pregnant.
I’m not sure if I understand well, but you weren’t told you had a twin? This would add to the hidden, secret nature, both of the house and Pluto .

3rd house represents siblings, so you could connect these knots. Depending upon which sign is your 3rd and where it’s ruler is placed, you can find out more.
Also representing communication and writing, with Neptune here you definitely have a gift.

Pluto conjunct the ascendant surely can be seen right ’ in your face’ , as it influences your appearance.
Depending on the rest of the personality it gives you a powerful, mysterious vibe which people will sense. Often the reactions can be very black or white, like they like and respect you or they back away as they can feel threatened out of reason they can’t understand.
It’s only natural with this placement to carry this mystery vibe and feel it yourself about yourself, it stands for Pluto and the 12th. Overall you can just sense things intuitively, not really solidly grasping them..
It tells you that there is a hidden power in yourself, which should be used wisely.. that’s why it’s locked away in the 12th.
I don’t think that there is one major transformation with this.. I would rather say it will be a theme throughout your whole life, always changing yourself.
Pluto is very slow and with its hidden nature, there are things happening on unconscious levels you often don’t realize as a precise event, but rather discover later that you have slowly changed over a longer period of time.
But sure, sudden events sometimes also just hit you in the face with Pluto, especially if refused to look and act on what needs to change about ourselves.

But overall it’s a powerful placement with tremendous inner strength and regenerative resources you can tap into.
If you accept that ultimately it’s all about constant change and that things must ‘ die’ so that something new is being born, nothing can really bring you down but yourself.

About Venus, with the 8th it will always have a tendency to hide away, but more because the 8th stands for very intimate parts of us. You don’t wanna share these things with just anyone. It’s not really wise to do so. Venus in the 8th is like Venus in Scorpio in a way.. these people don’t seek ‘light’ connections, they are very selective.. especially because with this you are very sexually attractive and many people see and want just that.
As the 7th is about love and partnership, 8th is the intimate consummation of the relationship, where you want to merge with someone very deeply.

Hm, don’t know if I covered all your points, probably not..I sometimes get lost, ha ha


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Originally Posted by irisa
Hi Miharo,

about the projection....a few years ago i found something out. I could only find this out by following feelings, lots of dream and trusting certain things i felt or had seen in the unseen....brought up so much and intense emotions that i just had to conclude what had come to my mind then had to be true.
So, a 12th house experience....mystery, secret, unconscious....(very interesting).

Through the years i of and on read about the 12th house as well. Found that it also can be about a former life (or the last former life) and about the prenatal time, just before birth.

What i just wrote about, the traumatic experience (also wrote about it somewhere else on the forum) was that back then in the womb i lost a twin brother. After finding out i sometimes would read about certain stuff in astrology and my birth chart and it strongly feels my Yod (that i wrote about) has to do with this.

Pluto in 12th house can be about an traumatic experience in the womb.
Moon in the 3rd house can be about the loss of a sibling.

About Pluto conjunct the Asc i read that one could or would have a major transformation later in life. I think i know what this will or could be about for me. I still find it so hard to live that mysterious me. It feels safe here on the forum, it gives me lots of energy.
I have lots of ideas to write about (books or blogs or whatever), but the further i come in time the harder it seems to get....thinking about what other people then would think of me, but i know i myself am my biggest enemy.
But, pluto seems to say to me that it´s not about whether i will transform, but more when this will happen....i can´t wait....but why am i waiting?

Pluto conj Asc....transformation
Moon and Neptune in 3rd house....communication, writing and stuff
Venus in 8th house....also about transformation....being really me...feels like (that´s what i experienced after awakening) i then i am much more woman....i am already know but sooo insecure...and i hide....though i know there´s no need to....


Hm, these were my confessions for today....making today officially the first day (again) to really open my 12th house....dive in there and starting to slowly let other people in there....

Who´s joining lol;-)
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