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Originally Posted by ImthatIm
The Chanunpa Wakan or White Buffalo Calf Pipe is still in the possession
of our Pope like leader. Arvoll Looking Horse  |
Honestly,
ImthatIm.
The first time I
ever heard of Arvol, was a Lakota person saying he is a fraud.
Since I am not Lakotan, Amerind nor even American I am
not entitled to
speak for Lakotas, Amerinds nor Americans.
The only thing I can say, is, that there seems to be a division in belief of who the right pipe carrier is, and it is up to Lakotas themselves to sort this out.
Outsiders really should trust their own spirit guidance or their personal link with spirit.
I respect the ways taught by the White Buffalo Calf Woman as I think all those are excellent.
As for the rest, people really need to decide for themselves, whom to trust.
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In our stories - a birth of a white reindeer is a good omen:
https://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/s...66&postcount=2
But our stories really seem to follow the Arctic narrative.
It is the animals themselves that take pity on humans.
A maiden at certain circumstances either meets a bear or a deer & marries him:
https://assets.lily.fi/sites/lily/fi...idenkansa5.jpg
People go hungry and the bear or the deer or the moose etc. decides to give the flesh of his own body to feed them.
But hunters have to do the proper-right ceremonies to finally release the spirit to its heavenly home - to come back again:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...iZ9OQ&usqp=CAU
The Master of the Forest (or the Sea) decides if there is game to be hunted any particular day and the individual animal decides, whether and when or even if it sacrifices itself to be food for humans.
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