Quote:
|
Originally Posted by God-Like
On the other hand likened to the practice of neti neti there is the teachings associated with ‘not this’ in relation to what you are . So from what starting point does one embrace and realise the truth? While saying not this all day long to everything perceived .
Why not start out with the teaching practice of ‘all this’ is what I AM .
Why start off with a false premise at all .
Makes no sense to talk about or teach and preach that impermanence is unreal and what is permanent is real when there is only Self or what you are present in both instances .
All this separating and dividing is not a true reflection . For myself if I was a seeker and a novice I would rather know that everything is what you are rather than spend a lifetime saying I AM not this, this is not real, this is impermanent etc etc .
Each to their own in regards to their journey, but all I am doing is pointing what isn’t right about the premise .
You recognised eventually that the illusory world isn’t illusory if you perceive the world in a specific way, it’s no different here ..
I don’t understand why anyone would study the teachings of the world is illusory when it isn’t .
It’s a false belief to the one that is ignorant, these teachings however old and spiritual would be no different to any teachings that peeps follow religiously .
x daz x
|
Hey Daz,
Neti Neti is not at all at fault here. Neti neti will not be a false premise/practice, if people practiced neti neti, the way neti neti was meant to be practiced.
Neti neti does not negate the physical universe/ turn the physical universe into an illusion/not real. People's practice of neti neti with their dogma and false beliefs of existence negates and escape the existence of the physical universe. This is why some spiritual teachers (like J. Krishnamurti ) reject old practices, traditions and etc- because a foundation or path that is based on dogma and false beliefs, even while using a good practice (this includes all the paths of yoga) will obviously, lead one away from truth.
Neti neti is a practice of moving past man made objects (but people take the word objects and the context a little too far to mean all objects in the physical universe, including the objects/matter of the physical universe itself) and that man made objects are not the truth to base your foundation on.
Neti neti is also used to go deeper into the ego/I/thinker thinking “I am just my name,” “I am just my body,” or “I am just my personality,” and etc and realize internally that my ego/I/thinker that thinks "I am this" and "I am that" is the one and the same as my true inner self, which is the the deep heart felt feeling of I AM/atman. The point is to unite the separate ego/I/thinker with the true inner self/atman. The point is not to create more separation and division.