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Originally Posted by Iamit
There is no way that I am aware to establish whether the manifestation is infinate, but consider for a moment that if it is, then it is never why does this or that appear, but it must appear otherwise the manifestation would not be infinate! If the manifestation is not infinate then there may be a different reason for suffering. There is speculation that it has some purpose or meaning, which must also appear in an infinate manifestation.
Applicable to both is the assertion that manifestation is held in place/maintained by Oneness as an automatic infinate balancing system, (symbolised by the Yin/Yang symbol) which balance may not be apparent 'locally'. With the infinate version there must be suffering so we dont have to work out other reasons why it might happen.
Also Oneness seems to have manifested something we call realization, that at least ends the suffering of feeling disconnected/separate, even though appearing as apparently many separate things. This seems to have been done by manifesting the belief that All is 'Itself' (One), and the capacity to resonate with, have faith, or trust in, that belief,
or some practise.
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Could you explain why you think there would be a different reason for suffering if manifestation was not infinite?
Manifestation is held in place/maintained by oneness. Not only that, oneness completely permeates and saturates manifestation because oneness is infinite. If you say manifestation is absent of oneness, then oneness is no longer infinite as it does not occupy manifestation. This would mean the manifestation is phenomenological and separate. If oneness completely saturates and permeates manifestation entirely, you could make the case that manifestation IS oneness, or manifestion is oneness appearing as manifestation
And then finally Realisation is not a manifestation. it is merely the dropping of the illusion of manifestion, realising that manifestion does not and never did exist in the way the seperate sense of self believes it to be. So in a way realisation does not exist because there was no phenomological event, it could actually be the opposite of a phenomonological event as it transcends duality, it is not linked in the causal chain that we consider to be duality
Im welcome for an alternative view as this is not a felt experience for me, atleast not right now, but it has made sense previously but unfortunately ego asserts itself lool