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Originally Posted by Molearner
Still Waters,
Thanks....:) Just a word of caution when we say 'question everything'. That is OK if everything actually means everything. Our questioning IMO generally exhibits a bias to the negative. We often question the very things we see or experience unless it can be demonstrated to be scientifically true. IMO this is limiting.....it becomes impossible to believe the miraculous unless we personally experience it. It becomes an impediment to believing 'that all things are possible'. Admittedly some things simply suggest taking a step of faith. Many things have been achieved by 'dreaming the impossible dream'.
I was struck by your honest words in a previous post: "I was a Phi Beta Kappa top student in college and getting past the "intellectual" was one of my most formidable obstacles." Perhaps getting past the intellectual is also getting by science ? We should not be restricted by what we know or what we think we know. Even as broad and comprehensive as it might be our POV is always limited to extents that we cannot realize or comprehend>
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It isn't necessarily an ''obstacle''. One can have an interest in science and also do spiritual practice daily. When we sit down and calm our mind, and achieve non-thought we aren't having any 'intellect' getting in the way of things.
Just because people don't preach the standard beliefs that surround mysticism does not mean they cannot or do not achieve beyond-mind state of being or don't do any spiritual practice for years that have improved them. It would be rather arrogant and morally self-defeating to assume those labelled as ''intellectual'' or ''materialistic'' can't 'do' spirituality.
Some harp on about it all the time, obsessed with people they brand ''intellectuals''. I would argue that it would be more fruitful to have an open mind to alternative explanations to spirituality and spiritual phenomena. Yes, read those old texts, do the practice(s), but also have an interest in science.