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Originally Posted by Lorelyen
I think you're speaking of logic in the colloquial sense. As a mathematical technique it's perfectly reliable. The danger is people getting the premises wrong or simply false - and you'll find loads and loads of that in the Spiritual snake oil market on the web.
Sometimes it's quite appalling! Someone comes on stating a fake fact then treating that as an fact in a logical equation. The naive often fall for it as we see here then suffer disappointment when they suss it out later.
You can prove the moon is made of cheese with logic....but only with false premises!
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Well now, sometimes we just need a premise to our premise to strengthen it to make up for it's obvious shortcomings and falsyness. One might preface the premise by saying "As everyone knows, X" or perhaps "Now that it has been shown that, Y", or perhaps even, "Only fools can't see the Emperor's fine and beautiful clothing."
Don't you know what everyone else already knows?
Oh, well, it appears it has been shown, I must have missed it.
Of course I can see the Emperor's clothes, I am not a fool!
Of course often it is as easy as saying "this is what we think."
Don't you want to be one of us?
And so it goes as history repeats again and again as naked Emperor after naked Emperor ascends and falls.