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Old 20-06-2011, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Gem
I learn from long hours of still silence...

Yes, but you don't have Chinese etymology lessons during that silence unless I'm much mistaken. No doubt you can make room for the term 'Tao' in your philosophy on these terms, but 'Tao' in Chinese actually means 'way' or 'path', and I think they decided to name the tradition that way for a reason... You have an excellent understanding of your own path, of course, but what you are talking about is not what the Taoists tend to mean by the word 'Tao', which is really the question here.

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Originally Posted by TzuJanLi
you may find comfort in ritualistic Taoist practices, a 'path' that works for some people.

In my case it is not a question of 'comfort' (no spiritual path is that simply, if real -- and you know it well I would imagine, so why bring it up?) but of a transformative alchemical practice. It works well alongside other practices too...

Nor is the ch'i kung and deep meditation I practice 'ritual', exactly, unless you think the t'ai chi you practice is too. Pejorative use of 'ritual' (usually intended to imply mindless dogma for the unfree) makes no account of how the patterns of Nature and Tao can be traced in practices of many kinds...

The idea that 'truth is a pathless land' (which Krishnamurti intended to dissolve dogma I think) could too easily be stretched to mean there is no difference at all between one path and another, since all must lead to the same place in roughly the same way, aka 'hard perennialism' -- a dogma in its own right and one that actually contradicts the original Krishnamurti idea, it seems to me. After all, Taoist sorcery and Taoist inner alchemy are not the same thing. Although they have some things in common of course...

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As an understanding of Tao, 'the way things are' is not simple acceptance.. it is a diligent study of nature and the interactive relationships that weave this experience we know as Life..

Yes, that's exactly what it is... I agree with you 100%. That's a good definition of 'Tao' in a nutshell.

The Taoist Inner Alchemy practices were born of precisely that deep level of observation. If you would care to, you could learn more.

Mind you there are very interesting Taoist ritual/deity practices too. Michael Saso has written about some interesting experiences. And they equally are born of such observation. Taoism does not really have a concept of heresy.
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