The Overself
Here's an article-quote from Lobsang Rampa that explains the nature of the overself,which is the one god-monad every religion is talking about.
Man is nine-tenths subconscious and one-tenth conscious. You have probably read quite a lot about it because the whole science of psychology is devoted to the various facets and idiosyncrasies of Man's subconscious. Remembering that Man is so little ‘conscious’ does it not occur to you what a shocking waste of time it is for a powerful, powerful Overself, gifted with all manner of abilities and talents, pulsing with the power of a more vibrant world and of a different way of life, who comes to this world laden with troubles and obstacles, and then to function at, at most, one-tenth of its ability? Supposing you had a motor-car, oh, let us say an eight-cylinder car because there do not seem to be any ten-cylinder cars to make the allusion more exact—let us say we have an eight-cylinder car, then, just for the purpose of this illustration. We have this eight-cylinder car, but we find that it is working on one cylinder alone, seven cylinders are not in any way contributing towards the function of the car, they are in fact holding it back even more because of the inertia. The performance is deplorable. But think of it in terms of human existence; mankind is like a ten cylinder car only one cylinder of which works, the other nine are ‘subconscious’. Wasteful, isn't it? The Overself of a human—or any other creature either, for that matter—does not waste energy; the Overself of a human has a number of tasks which must be accomplished. Supposing we have an evolved Overself who is anxious to progress to other planes of existence, one who is anxious to go up and up and up to different dimensions. In that case the Overself might devote one-tenth of its ability to dealing with the body on Earth, and the rest of its abilities might go to dealing with bodies on other planets, or other planes of existence. Or it might even be without puppet bodies on other planes of existence and be moving in what one might term, pure spirit, instead. But if the Overself is not that far evolved or has a different scheme of operations, it might do things in a different way. Supposing our Overself is more or less of a beginner, then you can say that it is the same as a student in secondary school. The student has to attend a number of classes instead of having to learn just one subject, often this means that the student has to walk to different classes or to different centers, and that really does waste a lot of time and energy. The Overself is in a far more satisfactory position. It is the puppet master. Upon this world which we call Earth there is a puppet which is the Earth body, and which functions with one tenth of the Overself's attention. Upon a parallel world in another dimension the Overself could have another puppet, or perhaps two or three, or more puppets, and it would then be able to manipulate these between various tasks. To go back to our student, one might say that this is like a student who can remain aloof in his private room and send his deputies to the different classrooms so that he can gain all the experience required through these different sources and 'connect them up' later. Let us assume that the Overself is having to rush things somewhat in order to catch up with the cycle of evolution. Supposing the Overself has been a bit slow or a bit lazy, and has had various setbacks, and this Overself does not want to be left in the same class or state after the others have passed on, so he has to take, in effect, a cramming course the same as a child or older student takes extra lessons in order that he may keep up with others who are more advanced, and so remain in close touch with them. The Overself may have a person living one life in Australia and may have yet another person doing something else in Africa. Perhaps there will be another one in South America or Canada, or England; there may be more than three, there may be five or six or seven. These people might never meet on Earth and they would still be very much in affinity with each other, they may have telepathic rapport without in any way understanding why, but then occasionally they would meet in the astral just as travelling salesmen sometimes meet in the sales manager's office. The poor wretched Overself with seven or eight or nine puppets would really have to get a move on to manipulate them all at once and avoid ‘crossing the wires’. This is one explanation of some curious dreams because frequently when two compatible puppets are asleep their Silver Cords might touch, and would produce an effect similar to those crossed telephone lines wherein you hear pieces of others' conversations but, sadly, sadly, and to one's immense regret, we miss all the most interesting bits. But what is the purpose of all this, you might ask. Well, that’s easy to answer: By having a number of puppets the Overself can have vast experience and can live ten lives in just one lifetime. The Overself can experience riches and poverty at the same time, and so weigh them in the balance of experience. One puppet in one country could be a beggar making a miserable living, hardly existing, in fact, while in some other country the next puppet could be a prince gaining experience of how to handle men and how to shape a nation's policy. The beggar would be gaining experience of misery and suffering so that when his lifetime of experience was blended to that of the prince-puppet the Overself would know of the seamier side of life, and would know that there are at least two sides to every question. In the normal course of events people would perhaps come as a prince and then wait for another life to come as a beggar, or the other way about, but when they are rushed for time when any given cycle of evolution is nearing its end as is the present case, then heroic methods have to be adopted in order that those who are slower may yet keep up with the rest. https://www.lobsangrampa.org/overself.html |
Hi Lomax. The forum has a rule about copy/pasting long articles. I've never quite understood why, but I just had a glimpse while reading that. That wall of text doesn't do much for me, although I did appreciate the light and laid-back tone in general (always a happy sign).
I would much rather hear what you personally have to say, and then go from there. For example, your very first comment interested me the most. You say this is the one god-monad every religion is talking about. I would question that assessment. Religions are as varied as all the many spiritual and new-age philosophies that are floating around out there. More than that though, I would argue that any religion or philosophy that identifies a "one god-monad", isn't in fact on the same page (or in the same ballpark, planet and solar system even) as a philosophy that identifies the existence and reality of an overself. The idea of an overself is incongruous to religious belief and teaching, period. It's a bit like suggesting a priest and quantum scientist speak the very same language when they lecture to their particular audiences. True perhaps on the most extreme and abstract levels of understanding, but other than that, not at all. I personally would say the overself is an idea reflecting the evolution of human spiritual understanding. It is one of many Aquarius Age understandings that are now replacing all those typical and familiar archaic Pisces Age beliefs; concepts like the one god-monad for example. All that said, it comes back to what you if fact actually meant by one god-monad. And that's why dialogue, rather than just reading a long article, is necessary. |
Partialy i agree with you baile.
It's not coming from my experience,and if there's a problem with the forum rules,i apologize for this.The moderators can delete it. On the other hand i had the urge to post it,cause i feel it's truth. For example i've met with uknown humans in my dreams,and i had the strange feeling that i was them and they were me. |
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But once i see something and ''clicks'' to me,then i investigate a little further. Of course others might have a different opinion,but for me he spokes the truth. I just feel it. I just wanted to share this piece,for various reasons. |
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But on the other hand,yes.It could be. |
Another example he gives about the nature of the overself,is when you see a swarm of birds,turning direction alltogether like they're under the command of someone.
These birds are under control of the same overself. They are many,but it seems like they act as one |
Well, I loved it and copied the link to go to later, thanks.
I had only heard the term Oversoul from many places, I think Seth was one place. Any additional things you remember, like the birds ...keep it up! :smile: |
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