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JustASimpleGuy 17-03-2021 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by chandersanja
T.M is effortless meditation.


Actually not. It's a focused meditation. It's attending a mantra.

This is what is meant by effortless meditation.

https://deconstructingyourself.com/d...editation.html

The full instructions for the Do Nothing meditation technique are: sit down and do nothing.

Unseeking Seeker 17-03-2021 03:02 PM

In my view, meditation is simply thought rested awareness, a dynamic stillness, receptive and acceptant to embracing both rippleless silence (void) or energetic currents (magnetism, sound, light, fragrance), as may arise, without any expectation on our* part (*we are there, yet not there). We do not interfere. The ‘we’ refers to identity or ego or doership. Even memory imagery of past meditation experiences is rested.

Any focused technique, said to be meditation, may be called concentration, since the entity (we) are present, attempting to contour the trajectory of awakening based upon vicarious knowledge, through focus. Of course, concentration has its limited advantages.

Taking a step back, before embarking upon this vs that method, we recognise that we are seeking to go beyond limitations of mind, in search of permanent joy, merging, melding with God. God being the all there is, we too, as individuated aspects of His being, must vaporise all sense of separateness arising from doership, if this goal is to be realised in active cognition of in-form consciousness.

Where were we? Meditation. So, if we are not, as in identity is not, other than an interface having it’s own separate transient agenda, meditation as thought rested awareness, simply flowing effortlessly is our natural state of being, vibrantly throbbing with bliss, in agendaless exuberance and aliveness, in an unbroken continuum through day and night.

utopiandreamchild 17-03-2021 11:47 PM

If I am to meditate I meditate on love, calling upon the emotion, feeling it and being it. Invoking love, the rest just falls into place. Amen

Gem 18-03-2021 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JustASimpleGuy
Actually not. It's a focused meditation. It's attending a mantra.

This is what is meant by effortless meditation.

https://deconstructingyourself.com/d...editation.html

The full instructions for the Do Nothing meditation technique are: sit down and do nothing.

Sure. Mantra is doing something intentionally, and after a while, habitually, and doing nothing is like don't do that. If it's happening habitually, OK, not need to try and stop doing that or keep doing it or something like that. But of course, in doing nothing you wouldn't do it intentionally.

utopiandreamchild 18-03-2021 02:43 AM

The do nothing meditation?, doing nothing doesn't add to progress. I could do nothing all day but there would be no accomplishment which would be unfulfilling. On the other hand if I meditated on love I would feel things like peace, harmony, tranquility whereas if I just did nothing, thats all I would accomplish, nothing, no progress. I'd rather do something than nothing, like meditating on love. Amen

Questions 18-03-2021 10:56 AM

There is action in inaction, there is inaction in action

JustASimpleGuy 18-03-2021 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Questions
There is action in inaction, there is inaction in action


https://krishna.org/what-is-action-a...t-is-inaction/

“One who sees inaction in action, and action in inaction, is intelligent among men, and he is in the transcendental position, although engaged in all sorts of activities.” (Bhagavad Gita 4.18)

This is Karma Yoga, and the way I practice it (Work as Witness as opposed to Work for God) is like an informal do nothing meditation throughout the day. They dovetail very nicely and both also dovetail with the central message of Jnana Yoga.

Here's a good explanation of that verse from the Gita. https://youtu.be/n-SUJ0Vwelk?t=1079

Miss Hepburn 18-03-2021 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Questions
There is action in inaction, there is inaction in action

Ah, someone that understands that. :hug3:Thank you for posting that for people to read.

(oh you 2, JASG!!!!!)

Miss Hepburn 18-03-2021 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by utopiandreamchild
The do nothing meditation?, doing nothing doesn't add to progress. I could do nothing all day but there would be no accomplishment which would be unfulfilling. On the other hand if I meditated on love I would feel things like peace, harmony, tranquility whereas if I just did nothing, thats all I would accomplish, nothing, no progress. I'd rather do something than nothing, like meditating on love. Amen

:smile:...

Miss Hepburn 18-03-2021 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker
In my view, meditation is simply thought rested awareness, a dynamic stillness,
receptive and acceptant to embracing both rippleless silence (void) or energetic currents (magnetism,
sound, light, fragrance), as may arise, without any expectation on our* part (*we are there, yet not there).

I felt peaceful just reading this. Thank you. :)


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