What I remember of hell from a past life
 

I know I will probably be bombarded with judgement for this but I need to share my experiences :)
I can only tell what I have seen and felt.

I have two memories of what people refer to as 'hell'... I know that when I visited there I was performing a higher duty and that I was not mortal. I was someone of light and power. The only way I can describe the first memory I have of this place is in comparison to the movie 'constantine'... Mind you I saw this memory before that movie ever came out. It is the world behind the world though. It is the same as this world only everything was half destroyed/ on fire and people running in torment and pain. The heat was incredible but despite all that was happening it did not affect me or burn me. Whoever I was probably played part in that. I was there to rescue people that were not meant to be there.

The other memory I have is different, it was hell still but it felt darker and deeper. There were few mortal souls there. It was mostly filled with dark souls, not nescessarily beings that use to be alive on earth, but creatures of evil, demonic souls I suppose you could say. The few mortal soul I saw there were people that had commited things such as murder, mass murder and rape. Not lairs or thieves. But people that had taken lives that were not theirs to take. The look of this place was more desolated, rocky. Hot mists, blood, the torture of the beings there. It was sickening to look at. But again nothing that came near me could hurt me. This time I was there to oversea that a certain soul had arrived in this place. I was making sure it had ended up here and I spoke with lucifer on this.

I must point out at this moment that what I remember of lucifer is not that of fear or evil. He was originally an angel that was cast out because he oppossed the creation of man. He was in no means evil and he did nothing to torture the souls. He sat and watched, as though he was ensurring these dark souls stayed where they needed to stay as to not cause torment to others.

Again these are my memories only. But everything I mentioned above had a feeling of a sense of duty, not to the greater good but to the BALANCE of all things. This world is only part of something greater.

hey 356,

whatever u just said makes sense to me.i read a book which described lower realms in this way and it described that how some souls are sent to lower realms for purpose of helping a soul or checking if someone has arrived and is repenting ... and has asked for help.

as nothing was effecting you...it means you went their for help...so you were protected.

Thanks ,
whitelotus

this is interesting 356...I have read an account of similar description for the lower levels....very interesting......blessings.....

Im suprised and glad you both understand what I am talking about :)
Ive never actually read other accounts of hell or the levels. I don't feel the need because in my heart I know what its all about. Everything I saw felt so truthful to me.

Having felt the peace and love that the other side brings, if anything the physical world feels the most like hell. Because lets face it we all feel at somepoint that there is something missing, a void. We are all waiting to ascend to something greater and its only when we fullfill our purpose on the physical plane that we get moved onto greater things. :)

reminds me of the story "Dante's inferno" and also the story "paradise lost."

An extremely interesting account of your experiences. Did you ever get the feeling while there, that Souls in these realms were, or could be able to raise their consciousness? Did you ever get the sense that could be an option for them?

What's often intrigued me is that all Souls have an option (constantly open and available to them) to raise or refine their consciousness. Like tuning a radio to receive a different wavelength. It's certainly happened to me in my life, and to others I've known. And yet, in each case this happens it's usually triggered by some influence, either from another Soul, or something in the environment, or some experience.
It's often made me wonder about the "Souls in Hell" idea. Surely they too, have that option to raise their vibrations, ("repent" it might be called) -and yet accounts of Hell-Worlds never go into the idea that there just might be something, even in that environment which can act as stimuli, or triggers, to do this.
Now you have said this, it makes me wonder if certain visitations may happen in those realms, from more refined Souls, in order to present the denizens with those opportunities....? Just a thought.

Ive never read or heard of either of those stories :)
Tobi the feeling I got off the souls I saw there was that they were in an eternal form of purgatory. Some souls attacked anything that moved. Almost as though the more demonic beings were feeding off the more mortal souls..there was no type of repenting coming from these ones. They were dark and unforgiving.
I did also see some souls that were trapped in.. For lack of a better word a 'tar pit'. They werent sinking they were just kind of unable to get out. These ones were being beat and tortured and begging for forgiveness. The seemed more human. I only saw one man weeping, I remember speaking with him. I pulled him out of the pit. But his tears were not pure, they were tears because he had to endure the torment, not tears because he was sorry for what he had done. He immediately changed and tried attacking me, so he was thrown back in.
nothing else I saw down there showed anykind of repenting.

But I did get that feeling on the first memory I described. As though they were in there last stages before being granted some form of peace or life again. They were the people I was rescuing. But for them to have survived up to that point they must have been strong of will, because there were also all the souls that had just died on their way to hell running around causing blood shed and havoc. :)

I guess maybe once you get to the bottom you have to make it to the top layer again, I don't know. :)

Gosh, I don't know. But your experiences were profound and intriguing.

I have often thought deeply about the descent into Hell of Jesus Christ, and been so moved by that. He took a Light down there, left a light, so to speak. Whether the denizens of those worlds can see it or not, it is there, like a divine footprint. It is a point of Hope. Even in the most unspeakably dire realms and states of Being.

I read something extremely similar from a channelled spirit.....the description is similar.....he said that there are Angels waiting for those souls who repent for want of a better word, who cry out for help from deep within, a true call....as soon as they lift their vibrational level toward light, they are rescued (as you said, you were there to rescue)...they are not there as a punishment from the Divine, but where they want to be, by their darkness, and until they wish to move back into the light they will stay there......the rescue is instant, as soon as the genuine call is made.....I believe you.........many blessings to you xx

Xan what dragonfly1 described is what I meant. Eternal was probably the wrong word. But I meant the souls in the deeper level showed absolutely no signs of remorse. So they will be there until they do. They seemed that far gone into the darkness and they took joy in the pain they were causing and enduring. souls can not be saved unless they want to be saved and for the most part they have to make the choice to save themselves. Their torment won't be eternal but it may take them several life times until they start to make a change within themselves :)

Purgatory is temp. Hell is perm. Two different mindsets. One can hear and one wont hear.
All The Glory Belongs To God Forever

I see it this way too. Some people/souls are intractable in their negativity... poor things. A call for compassion to maybe help them along.


Xan

Hm, I'm struggling with this. It gives us humans a subjective line in what is a terrible wrong that warrants this place. Is stealing in that bracket - would stealing because your family were hungry be acceptable?

(am I overthinking?!)

That said, I do believe that after passing there is a "healing" which involves a refining - which could be this place you saw. I wouldn't restrict it to "really bad people" but I think we will all find ourselves winding up there for a period of time until we have come through to knowing and accepting we will have to pay for our "crimes" with the ensuing karmic process.

I have to say as a disclaimer, I have a heavy Christian upbringing and so there is no qualifier between one sin and another in my mindset - rightly or wrongly. That said, I'm appalled at myself at the knowledge that I killed someone in a blatant abuse of power in a past life. I know I've paid for the crime and karma and that's dealt with, it's passed. I'm not pleased with myself for such a thing and whilst I don't dwell on it, it's sobering and humbling to think that I was / my soul was capable of deliberately doing such a thing.

Another member (lenvdb64) posted a thread mentioning the movie Astral City (also known as Nosso Lar). You guys might be interested in checking it out. It's also in the "Death and The Afterlife" section, the thread is called "Movie: The Astral City".

Thanks Xan. my murder is a recent revelation. I've received a healing but I think there are reverberations that are just resounding. I don't so much blame myself or feel guilt but I think I hadn't considered that I might have been capable. But, I was a different person - it wasn't so much "me" as my past. But thanks Xan. I haven't ruled out the need for forgiving myself.

Having darkness in your heart when all aspects of God seem silly. God is life hope compassion. When a person no longer regards light they are in the dark and can not hear light becuz it sounds foolish to them.
Glory To God

Like I said I can only tell you what I saw and what felt true, but I saw no souls there that commited silly human crimes such as stealing, lying, decieving in the lower levels. In the first place I mentioned yes but they werent there for long.
I know alot of you will probably not like what I have to say but these places we go to have nothing to do with ONE religion. They have everything and nothing to do with ALL religions.
I have no religion. I am not religious by any means. All I have is faith in higher entities.
You can sit there and talk about how god is every thing or you can choose to realised that there are multiple gods, greek gods and goddesses, angels, buhdda, mother nature, every religion in this world has a god and higher powers. Collectively they are all the LIGHT. Ans which ever one or many you hold faith in are the ones that are going to help you on your spiritual journey and your journey through the afterlife.

what I saw in the lower levels were people that had taken another life that wasnt THEIRS to take. The person that was murdered or such wasnt their TIME yet.
And these people showed NO REMORSE and seemily had NO CONSCIENCE.

whichever god or gods you believe created man- they created all the qualities within each of us. The good and the bad. The light and the dark. Everyone has both within them and is capable of both. Is doing something good for the wrong reasons considered good or bad?
Is doing something bad for the right reasons considered good or bad?
Its neither.
All we have are choices.
Choices to listen to whats right for us.
And to follow or not follow the path we are on.
The only thing we can be JUDGED on is taking another human or nonhuman life that the universe created.
Not petty concerns of qualities each human possesses.

Belle- as for the murder in a past life.
Embrace it, grieve over it, accept it and move forward from it.
Every you in a past life is still YOU. Your soul doesn't change. Only the choices you make do. If your here again you've been put here for a reason. Live that reason and embrace the person you are. That means embracing the good and the bad.

When you say non human life.....that could mean to me, all the poor little critters ive murdered over my lifetime......flies, spiders other insects.....i have knowingly killed and unwittingly killed.......I wonder if we are put to lower vibrational realms for those crimes?.......

Perhaps?
I know alot of us feel strongly over the death of animals. Most people know its wrong. But most of us also feel sorry or show remorse at one time oanother over the killing of animals (other than for a source of food), because we all gotta.eat.
I think if a person feels and shows emotion in any circumstance such as this then perhaps you dont go to the lower levels. Emotion is showing the light within us. Emotion is the most honest thing in the world. :)

Well you know, a few years back i would never have even considered them, now i try to avoid killing them, but if i do....I am sorry that Ive done it....and if i pick up the spray can and spray......i remember that those poor little things deserve life too, even if they annoy or scare me......i am so much more aware of life than i ever have been.....but unfortunately I do kill them on occasion...still.....

Everyone does. Its just human nature :)
Again its not out of malice, its more out of fear. Its nothing that we will be condemned for :)

This is very very strong.

It also bares resemblance to what I have read from clairvoyants and Seers over the years. I have talked to two different Seers and I asked about hell and souls and spirits.

Your account is very similar. It does seem that children are always Correct! Even when I was a kid I knew only murderers and sick individuals went to hell. Children can be the greatest source of reason and intuition.

But your account on "demonic souls" hit the nail on the coffin! It is said that in the beginning of Creation when God decided to give souls free will in Heaven, some of those souls went astray and followed the selfish spirit (The Devil) and found themselves in their own selfish creations on Earth and in the universe. They were an abomination and so the Angels in heaven, divine souls destroyed the world and these evil souls were locked away in their "own" realm they created which is called "Hell", the realm without the presence of God. These evil souls were banned from incarnating in the human influx and cycle because of their states of consciousness. If you watched The Exorcist as an example, not necessarily accurate, the evil spirit in that film is basically a corrupt soul who never participated in human form and is wandering in darkness and void on The Other Side because of It's state of consciousness.

Only souls from heaven becoming incarnate can be called "human spirits", while souls who decided to remain in Heaven forever in groups are called "Angels and Archangels". We are basically human souls going through the earth-plane and learning to develop ourselves and tune ourselves to God. Only those expelled from school go to hell. But it is not eternal. Angels will make visits to the Hell realm to bring souls to purgatory and purge them, clean them, and set them straight to reincarnate. After death a lot of us probably go through that "purging state" or cleansing and enter heaven or reincarnate.

It's so hard to know what to believe anymore! People stuck in these places for such long periods seems so terrifying to me I can't even begin to explain how much it scares me. I always thought of darker realms existing in way where being can still function, and live. Like a realm similair to a bad neighbourhood full of mistrust and evil acts upon each other.

But a place that seems setup just for punishment and torture? And what force in the universe decided who is evil enough to go there? God? And what of the probable billions of other life forms in the universe or does "lucifer" just run this particular realm?

I think despite all the other posts in here backing up this claim, that this is a human construction this place. I really hope so anyway

Well it would seem to me, that souls filled with so much darkness would only go there with like souls.....all the same......if you're not filled with anger, hate, evil, cruelty...harmful intent then i reckon you're pretty safe......these places aren't set up for torture as i see it or punishment......they're just not ready to be in places or love and light...yet...when their soul can start to want to change to move out of such a horrid dark place..then they will be taken from that level......those souls are with souls alike so any pain torture or hatefulness, is what each soul would do to another......they are on equal footing in that regard......remorse for any action that may have harmed another is their saving grace.....but they have to want it, and truly ask for help to move upward.....i think that fear of this means that you're not like that in any way.......many blessings to you....

As far as ive experienced the only thing of 'human construction' is society as we know it in the physical world. Everything else is of greater creation and higher purpose.
Its not a place to be feared. Its not a place of torture. Its a place where those that dont want help and give into the darkness inside them go. Like ive said before there were very FEW human souls there. Most were demonic souls (if you can even call them souls anymore)...
The things that I saw there are graphic and violent but believe me ive seen far worse in my past lives and in the world this life time.
To me the dark desires of a human being to kill, rape and destroy are far scarier than the place I described. Because the place I saw was under careful watch by higher entities and I trust in them. Humans are much harder to trust in because they give into their base urges. . Higher entities adhere to their higher purpose. Lucifer was and still is some form of angel. It is only by his own ambition that he fell. Ambition is certainly a human quality.
Having remembered speaking with him he is quite a gentle soul. Firm and strong minded but I felt safe in his presence. Just like I feel safe in my angels and guides presence. I guess you could say he's a gate keeper/guardian to the lowest of levels. Definately no malice in him that I saw. So therefore I dont fear him. There are far scarier beings in the afterlife to encounter than him.

Also I must state I have no religion nor am I atheist or against religion.
My views come only from what ive seen and experienced :)
And I can only tell you what I felt within my heart at the time of the experience. That is what is true to me :)

Truth Seeker... I understand the pain of the idea that some souls could be condemned to hell Forever.

And if hell is separation from God in our minds and hearts, then this world is hellish for most people already.

In my experience of God/the Divine... nothing in form lives forever as the Supreme God is infinite and formless. Eventually every single spark of God remembers its own pure source and essence, and in that returns Home to infinite love, no matter how long it may take.

Fortunately we can do this now, in this lifetime... remember and feel our inherent oneness with God within ourselves. Meditation is the way.


Xan

1) People who judge still have a lot to learn.

2) I kind of understand what you are saying. Since we all have jobs on the Other Side, you probably chose an occupation where you help rescue souls from what one calls "hell" and bring them "Home". If you're able to communicate with your spirit guides or access your Akashic records, they should be able to confirm this.
When I'm on the Other Side, I might consider also rescuing souls from that lower dimension and bring them Home but I would rather do it with other companions instead of solo.
A spirit guide (through my son) told me that my last occupation was being a caretaker of babies who have transcended. Which explains why I love babies so much and children :smile: .

If you haven't already, you need to watch the movie called "Astral City: A Spiritual Journey". It's based on a true story and should bring more insight to your question. There is a thread that talks about this. I've also posted a link to the movie if you want to see it.
Thread: http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...ad.php?t=41290
Link to Movie: http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...9&postcount=46

Hope this helps! :smile:

Incredibly interesting thread, thank you for sharing your experiences 356!

Coolchic101 thankyou but im not going to look into it because I honestly have no questions about the place I went. When im asleep im tapped into the truth of everything ive previously experienced and when I wake up the truth is hazy so to speak. But day by day everything is becoming more clear to me :)

peacegarden your very much welcome xx

I understand. As long as you have the answers to your questions then that is what matters. Have a great day. :smile: