Ah, so it's you who has the agenda :icon_eek:

Your thoughts DM, ( your agenda ) create your reality ( thinking I have an agenda) :D

Thank you SW, I love quotes from different Religions /Beliefs that show individuality in oneness.
Unique shapes, textures and colours woven together in life's tapestry :smile:

Would you volunteer to work for Christ for one day?
With your dedication and work ethic, I believe they would change the forums name from "Spiritual Forums" to "Spiritual (Christian) Forums".
And instead of that white flower (is it a lilly?), they'd put a Cross.

When I go out to do routine outreach to the lost souls, I look at your work ethic here as something to emulate. We need such in Christianity honestly speaking. Just observing this is encouragement to me and I believe it should be too to other Christians.

I try to work towards feeling ' Compassion ' for all Sentient beings every day, compassion doesn't need a Religion....

I do stumble though :smile:

You have 6988 posts and a good number of threads, what percentage of these have been "in compassion"?

Can you count ' Emotions ' ?

Double Post.....

Although your post was directed towards some one else, it did raise a question with me.

Do you differentiate in any way between Jesus and "the Christ"? What is your understanding of "Christ as the reality" ?

still, no they're the same really I believe, there are differences but they are one in the end. there's only one Christ but many individuals and that sort of thing
I just think Christ is an experience of God so a kind of reality

I hardly think so :)
An ant has an agenda, it wants to live, to find food, whatever ant's believe in doing. that's my definition of agenda, what you wish for and want. The negative sense of the word, that's fair enough i meant everyone has an agenda in the positive sense. so yes, you are saying you have an agenda but not in the negative sense that's fine we agree!

I agree that "Christ is an experience of God so a kind of reality" and that there are indeed individuals who are "one and the same as the Father but the Father is greater". Ultimately, as you duly noted, "they are one in the end". (I often use the term "Christ consciousness" or "God consciousness".)

However, I am not sure if I am interpreting your post correctly or whether I am reading some of my own understandings into what you wrote.

I find it a bit difficult to articulate it!
because I've found context comes into it. 'Jesus' can mean the earthly person, or the present experience. 'Christ' tends more often to mean the latter but not always. Jesus really appears as a role model for all humans often. I find it easier to think of them as one and less confusing
i'm not a fan of term like 'God consciousness' on reflection because it limits just to consciousness not all the rest of the self so seems a bit like something is missing to me. I know its popular though!

Yes I do believe others were 'Christs' but Christianity was based around one particular one. I believe many in the broader 'Christ'-ian tent thought Christ was spiritual and not based around a particular human, but this one person's followers really thought he was the messiah and God they wanted to keep the human individual as their leader for all time. So you can be 'Christian' I guess in a broader sense, or narrower in the one earthly incarnation called 'Jesus' although I doubt that was his birth name, it stuck and all the others were forgotten

' im not a fan of term like 'God consciousness' on reflection because it limits just to consciousness not all the rest of the self '

What is the rest of the self DM?

All these labels are enough to give me to give me a Holy Migraine :D

The spirit body sky
Consciousness only resides in the mind part of the overall spirit body
You might as well say 'God mindedness' or 'God intellect' or similar
So, what is the problem with this?
The true mind in Jewish thought is in the heart, whereas the mind itself is just a processor of information compared to it
So by ignoring the heart, 'God consciousness' is neutering the whole spirit body experience, which includes other areas too - how would you just like to be a disembodied head?
That's what God consciousness is - just the head. its a low quality product
Compared to full body consciousness pfffft no comparison

I didn't say there was a problem, did I ?
I have never heard of a spirit body but that's OK :smile:

I wasn't going to go there, but I'm glad that you did.

I agree ! :thumbsup:

Your points are well taken, I can understand your concerns with the understandably limited term "God consciousness". I just can't find an appropriate word and that is probably why some eastern religions use the word "That" or "Suchness" or similar equivalents.

Your points are well taken.

Yes I have BJ but not a ' Spirit Body '.

Why do you think ' God Consciousness ' is a limited term SW?

Although I use that term frequently, DavidMartin has a point in that any verbiage is by definition self-limiting.

In Judaism, although they use the word "Adonai", the Kabbalistic interpretation of that word is "that for which the mind has no category". However, on sites such as this, it is very difficult to express SILENCE without words.

I think I am tuned into a different radio station as DM and yourself on this subject, not to worry I'll turn it off :biggrin:

Maybe you're tuned into the heart of God radio.
(KBeats 777 FM) where the sun never sets.:icon_sunny: :smile:

I love Sunset :D



I watch the sunrise lighting the sky,
Casting its shadows near.
And on this morning,
Bright though it be,
I feel those shadows near me.


I watch the sunlight shine through the clouds,
Warming the earth below.
And at the midday life seems to say,
I feel your brightness near me.




I watch the sunset, fading away,
Lighting the clouds and sea.
And as the evening, closes its eyes,
I feel your presence near me.



Yes, you are always close to me
following all my ways.
May I be always close to you,
following all your ways Lord.

Feel free to turn the noisy radio station off.

On several occasions, including at the Khumba Mela in India and at a Taoist monastery in Chengdu China, communication with a sage was in complete and utter silence. That is the ideal way in which to express that which cannot adequately be expressed in words. :biggrin: Such quibbling over words and terminology and "radio stations" does not even arise then. :wink:

As for you, feel free to tune into the noise of your "different radio station". :D

Hi all..I only dropped in, to leave this here.

https://www.truthforallpeople.com/me...estial-kingdom

I've even taken the batteries out for the time being :smile:

That's his interpretation of ' Truth ' but it wouldn't apply to all Neil....

Thanks neil.

I do Love the way poetry speaks to the Heart.
Thanks.

Because it comes from the heart :smile:


It's actually one of my favorite Childhood Hymns.

"SMILES"....no worries

Dimples :smile:

FUNNY yes..However, i do not have dimples.

When one can turn the thoughts off and take the artificial energizer batteries out, one can flow quite naturally and happily without all the self-created noise !

People tend to take life too seriously and get bogged down in nonsense, eh?

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' People tend to take life too seriously and get bogged down in nonsense, eh?'


So true, we put the Millstone around our own necks and then complain when we are drowning... :smile:

I occasionally get too serious as well, and that is why I love your lighten-up posts ! :thumbsup: