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ImthatIm 29-03-2021 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by running
Another beach there is these guys hanging out. resting up on the beach. They like to splash sand on top of them. When the bulls have a fight they chest it out until one of them leaves. lol

https://images.app.goo.gl/iHD9yJUo6QB6HBeD6

some of them are huge! although i never seen one this big.
https://images.app.goo.gl/mTkw6w2Tv3V3F9tU6.

That must be quite a sight and experience.

running 29-03-2021 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ImthatIm
That must be quite a sight and experience.


yeah. especially the time i was running and not paying attention and got to close for my comfort. lol. he just lifted his head up to look at me thankfully. lol

running 29-03-2021 06:15 PM

Only once this happened but i will never forget. i became a hawk flying around in a vision. Was the coolest!

running 29-03-2021 07:16 PM

Never seen a coyote on the beach before. Was running down the beach and there was a young coyote eating something on the beach. lol

ImthatIm 29-03-2021 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by running
Never seen a coyote on the beach before. Was running down the beach and there was a young coyote eating something on the beach. lol



Cool, the beach is a good place for food.
Had me some clams and oysters last night.Not at the beach though.


I discovered a good Mindfulness meditating practice.
Picking and preparing Stinging Nettles and Devils club.


You must not get distracted or they will sting and poke you.
You don't want any Devils club needles in your pot that might make it down your throat. LOL


This is a good way to talk to your food and medicine. Being mindful of everything that goes into it's Life and yours.:smile:
This is a big reason why I like gathering my own foods and medicines.
To talk and build relationship with my food and medicine.
Bring their Spirit in all the way through the process.

running 29-03-2021 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ImthatIm
This is a big reason why I like gathering my own foods and medicines.
To talk and build relationship with my food and medicine.
Bring their Spirit in all the way through the process.


thats some real good information. thanks.

ImthatIm 30-03-2021 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by running
thats some real good information. thanks.

It's just how I enjoy doing things.
Learning and having a relationship with my environment.

I believe there is security in knowing what to eat from ones environment.
Not only what to eat but how to prepare it.

I also feel I only know a little and strive to learn.

sky 30-03-2021 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ImthatIm
You must not get distracted or they will sting and poke you.
You don't want any Devils club needles in your pot that might make it down your throat. LOL
This is a good way to talk to your food and medicine. Being mindful of everything that goes into it's Life and yours.:smile:
This is a big reason why I like gathering my own foods and medicines.
To talk and build relationship with my food and medicine.
Bring their Spirit in all the way through the process.

Food for thought :biggrin: In more ways than one....
Love it.....

ImthatIm 30-03-2021 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sky123
Food for thought :biggrin: In more ways than one....
Love it.....





In this day and age, the majority of the influencers are telling me to be a
consumer of products.This is a very shallow existence in my view.


The most basic of teachings in the Native American view is one of inter-connectedness to all Life, both animate and inanimate.
In the Lakota language there is a phrase and basic teaching of inter-connectedness:
Mitakuye Oyasin
Quote:

The phrase translates in English as "all my relatives," "we are all related," or "all my relations." It is a prayer of oneness and harmony with all forms of life: other people, animals, birds, insects, trees and plants, and even rocks, rivers, mountains and valleys

So sinse they are my relations I build relationships.:smile: I'm not a consumer.:icon_frown:

I also see it in the form of Chi or energy or what I might call Spirit.
The vital Life force which gives vitality to Life.
I do not only hope to partake in the minerals and vitamins and physical form
I'm also partaking in the Life's energy Chi our Spirit.
This type of relationship with my environment brings much Joy and Happiness and Good memories.

Of course I believe all people lived at one time in relationship to the Land until the Romans/Catholics came a conquering
knocking people into a different form of living. Today I have no doubt they would find me guilty of crimes against the church
just for living and having such relationships with my environment.:D


They would be against my expression of Love toward my environment.

sky 30-03-2021 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ImthatIm
In this day and age, the majority of the influencers are telling me to be a
consumer of products.This is a very shallow existence in my view.

They would be against my expression of Love toward my environment.

You will enjoy Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh talking about ' Interbeing ' :smile:
Btw I agree with ALL you have written above.

ImthatIm 30-03-2021 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sky123
You will enjoy Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh talking about ' Interbeing ' :smile:
Btw I agree with ALL you have written above.



Yes, I have heard some of his talks.
I enjoy his demeanor.


I really enjoy this guys demeanor
Yongey Mingyur Rinpoche


I really like his "give your monkey mind a job" talk... LOL... I guess it is actually titled:
How to train your monkey mind.

He makes me joyful and bubbly.

running 30-03-2021 08:51 PM

with the goal of one day working part time so i can grow my own to put into the pot.

running super rice. what i take with me out on the road to eat.

Make a stew with....

1.beef bones with marrow.
2. half a cabbage
3. bunch of carrots
4. one garlic
5. one onion.
6. celery
7 salt and tumeric
8. half a cube of butter

brew it overnight on simmer. boil it down to the right amount of broth. use the broth to make my rice.

add butter, cilantra, and green onions to rice.

good cold or hot. i can feel the power in it when i eat it out on the road.

ImthatIm 30-03-2021 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by running
with the goal of one day working part time so i can grow my own to put into the pot.

running super rice. what i take with me out on the road to eat.

Make a stew with....

1.beef bones with marrow.
2. half a cabbage
3. bunch of carrots
4. one garlic
5. one onion.
6. celery
7 salt and tumeric
8. half a cube of butter

brew it overnight on simmer. boil it down to the right amount of broth. use the broth to make my rice.

add butter, cilantra, and green onions to rice.

good cold or hot. i can feel the power in it when i eat it out on the road.





Oh yeah, I like all that stuff.

sky 31-03-2021 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ImthatIm
Yes, I have heard some of his talks.
I enjoy his demeanor.


I really enjoy this guys demeanor
Yongey Mingyur Rinpoche


I really like his "give your monkey mind a job" talk... LOL... I guess it is actually titled:
How to train your monkey mind.

He makes me joyful and bubbly.




He's full of love and joyful happiness and it shows. His smile says it all :smile:

sky 31-03-2021 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ImthatIm
Oh yeah, I like all that stuff.



Sounds like a perfect precursor to those ' Mountain Strawberries '.... Yummy....

ImthatIm 31-03-2021 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sky123
Sounds like a perfect precursor to those ' Mountain Strawberries '.... Yummy....



Loved stumbling on this picture.
The stains on the fingers tells the story.
That's a Mountain huckleberry and that is what we mainly
gather in the Mountains and it is always good to stumble on some Strawberries.






I see you there little Strawberry full of Goodness.
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ImthatIm 31-03-2021 12:23 PM

Then after picking some berries a little dip in a pool.



running 31-03-2021 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ImthatIm
Then after picking some berries a little dip in a pool.




beautiful.

this is near where i used to live when i started my spiritual journey. was here last summer before the fire. found pics on net. not my pictures.

https://images.app.goo.gl/888aovxhYYojeXfq8

https://images.app.goo.gl/WBJt11UCMN8YVQ8n8

ImthatIm 31-03-2021 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by running
beautiful.

this is near where i used to live when i started my spiritual journey. was here last summer before the fire. found pics on net. not my pictures.

https://images.app.goo.gl/888aovxhYYojeXfq8

https://images.app.goo.gl/WBJt11UCMN8YVQ8n8





That's a very outstanding place, from the photos.Love the boulders.
I have not been to that part of the world.
I have been South and North and West of there.
I'll bet bet it is very invigorating.

running 01-04-2021 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ImthatIm
That's a very outstanding place, from the photos.Love the boulders.
I have not been to that part of the world.
I have been South and North and West of there.
I'll bet bet it is very invigorating.


its very cool! but if its about natures energetic impact for expansion. nothing i have ever felt compares to a washington storm.

sentient 01-04-2021 10:50 PM

Thank you for this thread ImthatIm.

This thread with interesting input from all of ‘yous’, also answered a question I had had on the shelf of my mind for a loooong time, and it was whether I was related to Nils-Aslak’s ancestry/relatives:
https://newsbeezer.com/norwayeng/nil...commendations/

Turns out I am. And I do know the ‘Lapp’ areas (wilderness hunting grounds) they came from before they moved and became called “Saami” up North.

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One more ‘energy-field’ story about a rock, a boulder (warning – a long one).

Was visiting relatives and we were having a picnic on their forest-block.
As I was sitting there, I started to feel a presence of a Rock. Since I couldn’t see one, I asked the owners: “Where is the Rock? There is a Rock here – somewhere.”

They said, they didn’t know of any Rock on their forest.
But because the presence of the Rock was so strong, I had to go and investigate - walking deeper into the forest.

After quite some time - couldn’t find it, so I gave up and asked the Rock itself to lead me to it.
Walked aimlessly for a while, till I came upon a track. Actually, there was no track, because the forest had grown over it, but there was – energetically, and the ‘energy-signature’ of that track ‘told me’ it was a Lapp/Saami track. And energetically the track started to ‘pull me’.

All of a sudden I was in front of a “Seita-stone”:
https://st2.depositphotos.com/100143...-the-polar.jpg

The forest had grown all around it so much, that you could not see it unless you were right in front of it.
As far as I understand, the Lapp hunter-gatherers brought offerings, part of their game etc. to this Stone. So, this Stone like ‘ruled’ … ‘governed’ a large hunting-ground. And even though the people, who had used this wilderness area, the track and the Rock had moved up North long ago, the ‘energetic presence’ was still there in the now to be felt.

Later, turned out the ‘Rock’ belonged to the owners of the adjoining forest-block, but his family had never known of its existence.
Later also a neighbour of theirs told of a Lapp/Saami stone stacks which had been on the 3rd adjoining forest block:
https://i1.wp.com/unusualplaces.org/...08/seita12.jpg

The owners of this 3rd block had clear-felled their forest and thus destroyed the stacks and disturbed the village berry-picking-grounds, which the village had become angry about, writing in newspaper columns etc. as those berry grounds are communal.

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So. My point here is about sensing ‘energy-fields’ with one’s awareness. (Using awareness as a sense).

Also, among Westerners it always seems to be about clearing the past, the blockages, etc. whereas for the indigenous, it is more about re-discovering and remembering the old - in the now … and reclaiming the forbitten, lost gifts and abilities, that went with those.

And why did I sense it? I suppose it was because the users of this Stone had partly been my ancestors too, so there was that link.

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P.S.
Aborigines talk about “Song Lines”.
This track was not the same, but somewhat parallel.

And as somebody had said:
“We all have got a song within us – it tells us who we are”.

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sentient 02-04-2021 12:23 AM

Even though filled with his own mental aberrations in parts - the book “The Songlines” by Bruce Chatwin is one ‘my teacher’ recommended for Westerners as it does hold a lot of truth also.

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sky 02-04-2021 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ImthatIm
Then after picking some berries a little dip in a pool.





Lovely Pics, a dip in the Pool sounds so inviting, I wish :D
I must try Huckleberries, they are a fruit I've not come across here, believe it or not :icon_eek: Are they sweet ?

Native spirit 02-04-2021 10:33 AM

Beautiful pic Huckleberries are similar to Blue berries or wind berries here



Namaste

ImthatIm 02-04-2021 12:22 PM

sky123

Huckleberry picking is an event, not just a happening.LOL
Actually it is a tradition by many.

Here is a quote about the taste of mountain huckleberries from a writer that pretty much nailed it.

The huckleberry is a relative of the blueberry.

Quote:

Huckleberry plants produce only a handful of berries per branch. And then there’s the taste: something like a cross between a blueberry and a raspberry … or maybe a blueberry and a grape, with an added brightness. Actually, the flavor varies quite a bit from area to area and even from plant to plant, which is part of the charm.


The quote was pulled from here:
https://www.seattletimes.com/life/ou...-is-the-place/




ImthatIm 02-04-2021 12:38 PM

A little better look at the Huckleberries and their importance.
Which the clergy seen it as almost a "sin" so you know Huckleberry picking is a GOOD time.

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A Methodist missionary described the 1843 berry season as “one great holy-day for the Indians, who preferred to spend their summer Sundays in the meadows of ‘Indian Heaven’ instead of listening to sermons that promised a Christian paradise”.


Much to the dismay of the early missionaries, Henry Brewer of the Mount Adams Mission in Washington reported that… “the absence of our Indian converts so long a time during the berry season being surrounded as they are by every possible bad example, and separated from the watchful care of their teachers, in many cases proves very injurious to their piety.

Ha, the berry picking in the Mountains is Paradise.

Quotes pulled from here:
https://jfdeters.wordpress.com/2014/08/29/huckleberry/

ImthatIm 02-04-2021 01:36 PM

sentient


Nice quote from your link.
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“I will die – as I lived – get lost with the winds of the plateau – rise in the song of the birds.

It is nice to live amongst the songs and the paths and the resonance of the old ones..They are everywhere to be discovered or in that space where they just come through.

Here is some music for all to enjoy, from Nils-Aslak’s sentient's relative.(In Remembrance)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xilt...6LpE8x&index=9


Quote:

Nils-Aslak Valkeapää - the central author of the Sami people, the defender and developer of the yoik-music. An artist who has been the key energy in giving Sami people back a belief in their culture. A belief that was close to be wiped out by the church and the ruling Scandinavian cultures.

ImthatIm 02-04-2021 02:38 PM

A few words from Winona LaDuke.

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As LaDuke tells us: “In our communities, Native environmentalists sing centuries-old songs to renew life, to give thanks for the strawberries, to call home fish, and to thank Mother Earth for her blessings.”


This saying does resonate with my Spirit. We participate in the circle of Life.


It was taken from this lengthy article:
Indigenous Americans: Spirituality and Ecos

https://www.amacad.org/publication/i...ality-and-ecos

sky 02-04-2021 07:30 PM

QUOTE=ImthatIm]sky123

Huckleberry picking is an event, not just a happening.LOL
Actually it is a tradition by many.

Here is a quote about the taste of mountain huckleberries from a writer that pretty much nailed it.

The huckleberry is a relative of the blueberry.


I think I'd better just enjoy the Picture :biggrin:
The only fruit I enjoy with ' Berry ' on the end are Strawberries. Blueberry etc: are not fruit's I enjoy, yuk :icon_eek:
I know they are full of goodness but I just do not like the taste of them.

ImthatIm 02-04-2021 07:50 PM

sky123

It's a good thing chocolate does not come from berries.:biggrin:

You would make an excellent picker.You wouldn't eat more than you pick.:smile:

sentient 02-04-2021 08:57 PM

The injun I knew in Central Australia …

I didn’t know him as ‘injun’ at first, because he could have been anybody with a mixed White/East Asian background.

He just started to stand out in my ‘field of awareness’ – maybe one could say, because I would always see him vividly before me ….. prior to him actually appearing physically round the corner ….
Once when talking about the “Songlines and Sites” …. and since he seemed to have a keen (energetic) awareness about them, I had to ask if he was ‘injun’ – and he is.

The Saami hunting trails, the Aboriginal Songlines and the Injun trails are not the same, but once you know yours – you become/are aware of the trails of others.
When those haven’t been part of one’s culture, people just pass them by – noticing nothing.

People talk about lay lines, but I am not sure what those are.

Songlines:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33O08xrQpR8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp_vYfEiuGU

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ImthatIm 02-04-2021 09:42 PM

sentient

Yep, I am a real believer in song.
I have no clue where I would be today without peoples
sharing their songs and learning from song.
When I sing ancient songs, it is my belief that all those
before me that have sung that song and know that song are building
a relationship and nurture each other.

My words don't relay what I want to relay but it is something most Beautiful, SONG IS.
Birds are always saying something if you have the ears to hear them.
I have a little saying I like. "From the Land of singing Rocks and Dancing Feathers"


People can either think I am crazy or they have a clue what I mean.
Dealing with Spirit can go either way, comprende?

sentient 02-04-2021 10:30 PM

I'm quite sure I have posted this before - from a favourite 'Strayan' cartoonist Leunig:
Quote:

Dear God,

We give thanks for birds. All types of birds.
Small birds and large birds.
Domestic fowl, migratory birds and birds of prey,
hooting birds, whistling birds, shrikes,
coloured parrots and dark darting wrens.
Birds too numerous to mention.
We pray for them all.

We mourn the loss of certain species
and pray for the deliverance of endangered ones.
We pray, too, for farm birds,
that they may be released from cruelty and suffering.
We give thanks for eggs and feathers,
for brave, cheerful songs in the morning
and the wonderful haunting, night prayers of owls,
mopokes, frogmouths and all nocturnal fowl.

We praise the character of birds, their constancy,
their desire for freedom, their flair for music and talent for flying.
May we always marvel at the ability to fly.

Especially we praise their disregard for human hierarchy
and the ease with which they leave their droppings
on the heads of commoners or kings regardless.
Grant them fair weather, fresh food and abundant materials
for building their nests in spring.
Provide them too with perches and roosts with pleasant aspects.

Dear God, guide our thoughts to the joy and beauty of birds.
Feathered angels.
May they always be above us.

Amen!

At this moment we seem to have a whole nation of Rainbow Lorikeets (many flocks) in our garden.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5Jc9MWVUAA6TjR.jpg

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ImthatIm 03-04-2021 12:22 AM

Gorgeous, birds.
I'll bet they have big personalities too.
They remind me of Macaws, probably related.


Nice prayer, birds with equal opportunity droppings.LOL

sky 03-04-2021 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ImthatIm
sky123

It's a good thing chocolate does not come from berries.:biggrin:

You would make an excellent picker.You wouldn't eat more than you pick.:smile:



Yes I'll help pick,
I promise not to eat any....
Do you eat Strawberries dipped in melted Chocolate ? Oh my goodness what a beautiful combination, occasionally :biggrin:

ImthatIm 03-04-2021 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by sky123
Yes I'll help pick,
I promise not to eat any....
Do you eat Strawberries dipped in melted Chocolate ? Oh my goodness what a beautiful combination, occasionally :biggrin:





I never have had a chocolate fondue or a chocolate fountain.
So I guess I have never had the pleasure of dipping my strawberries.
I've only ever had the pre-dipped chocolate covered strawberries.:smile:

sky 03-04-2021 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ImthatIm
I never have had a chocolate fondue or a chocolate fountain.
So I guess I have never had the pleasure of dipping my strawberries.
I've only ever had the pre-dipped chocolate covered strawberries.:smile:



You don't need a Fondue nor Fountain, just put some pieces of Choc: ( dark is healthier ) in a small bowl and melt it, yummy.... Naughty but nice :biggrin:


https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutriti...ark-chocolate/

ImthatIm 03-04-2021 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sky123
You don't need a Fondue nor Fountain, just put some pieces of Choc: ( dark is healthier ) in a small bowl and melt it, yummy.... Naughty but nice :biggrin:


https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutriti...ark-chocolate/



Oh yeah, I can use the dashboard method right at the Berry fields.:D
Dash board method: unwrap chocolate and place in bowl on the dash board of vehicle.
Maybe I will do a whole bag of special dark Hershey kisses.

ImthatIm 03-04-2021 07:04 PM

In Honor of the Killer Whale.
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sentient 03-04-2021 10:36 PM

ImthatIm - What is the story of the Eagle and the Killer Whale about?
Do you know?


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