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Honza 08-07-2022 05:01 AM

Can quietness be nasty?
 
My impression of the great I AM and meditation is that it can turn quietness and silence quite nasty. Imagine a huge force field which surrounds earth which is comprised of utter silence, but that silence has no benevolent qualities what so ever.

Is there such a thing as good quietness or malevolent quietness? Hindus describe God as neutral. Neither good nor bad - just perfect. Is that neutral silence in fact malevolent?

asearcher 08-07-2022 07:55 AM

could it be you are tapping into the isolation of it? and that in itself is a then prison?

ajay00 08-07-2022 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Honza

Is there such a thing as good quietness or malevolent quietness? Hindus describe God as neutral. Neither good nor bad - just perfect. Is that neutral silence in fact malevolent?


I have practiced such silence in the beach, and found that it helped me to see the beauty of nature and the sunsets better .

Usually, indulgence in narratives, thoughts and emotions prevent me from such observation.

Nondual perception brought about by meditation helped to bring about 'neutral silence' as you state and reduce the mental noise. I consider it good for my mental health.

'Malevolent quietness' can be termed as physical silence coupled with an overactive mental process that does not cease at will, and ignores the flowers,waves and sunsets.

Miss Hepburn 08-07-2022 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Honza
Is that neutral silence in fact malevolent?

No. .......

Native spirit 08-07-2022 02:01 PM

I have to agree with the other reply's


Namaste

HITESH SHAH 08-07-2022 04:46 PM

quietness
 
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Originally Posted by Honza
Is there such a thing as good quietness or malevolent quietness? Hindus describe God as neutral. Neither good nor bad - just perfect. Is that neutral silence in fact malevolent?


I agree with others . Quietness accompanied by bliss , peace , harmony ,energy , empathy is always benevolent . I do recognize sometimes the quietness comes with unease , worries , helplessness etc and that in my opinion is just surreal quietness and may be malevolent also .

Further God may appear neutral but He has a slight bend towards positivity & goodness just like aircraft may look horizontal when in flight mode but its actually slightly facing towards sky .

Miss Hepburn 08-07-2022 07:32 PM

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....I do recognize sometimes the quietness comes with unease, worries, helplessness etc...

Well, my comment would be: ''Then, that isn't real silence or quietness or stillness, is it?
What it is is a place filled with unease, worry and helplessness, etc." :tongue:
I mean, c'mon. It's a place of the the lower ego self...and all it's chatter, effecting
emotions...the unwanted feelings that the ego loves!

Ronni 10-07-2022 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Honza
My impression of the great I AM and meditation is that it can turn quietness and silence quite nasty.

I have also had this experience, but it was that my early meditation and spiritual teachers did not recognize the value and importance of always first invoking full and proper spiritual protection against the Beings existing in and traversing the lesser-lower, dark and evil realms, octaves and dimensions.

I don't know about God being 'neutral' -- but, I think that as soon as we (Human Beings) think 'perfect' then our mind tells us (truthfully or falsely) that there also must be 'imperfect' (duality consciousness). Oneness does not mean 'neutral' but it does mean 'no opposition'.

Ronni 10-07-2022 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
Well, my comment would be: ''Then, that isn't real silence or quietness or stillness, is it?
What it is is a place filled with unease, worry and helplessness, etc." :tongue:
I mean, c'mon. It's a place of the the lower ego self...and all it's chatter, effecting
emotions...the unwanted feelings that the ego loves!

Miss Hepburn, if you consider that we are 'sitting with God' in this silence, quietness and stillness, then, when we need to heal from grief, loss, fear, or anything else that needs healing within our own psyche and Soul, then, in His Silence, Quietness and Stillness, God will be Helping us to get in touch with that which is too painful for us to deal with by ourselves. So, with God, when we are humble enough, we can feel uneasy and worried and helpless...and, in our humility -- and this disquiet and unease -- we can STILL ask God for Help for our healing. It can work like that, and it's not just the lesser-lower ego, but the Higher Self or Soul seeking help for healing and to be made Whole.

Miss Hepburn 10-07-2022 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronni
...So, with God, when we are humble enough, we can feel uneasy and worried and helpless...and, in our humility -- and this disquiet and unease ....
It can work like that, and it's not just the lesser-lower ego, but the Higher Self or Soul seeking help for healing and to be made Whole.

I get what you are saying, I do. :)

Still, I will stick with: Feelings like the bolded above are not coming from MY Higher Self.
(What I mean is - Joy, freedom, love, profound wisdom, compassion and contentment, laughter come from my Higher Self.)

lostsoul13 10-07-2022 01:38 PM

Interesting question- there’s some interesting fact I was talking to my friend and she said some people see snakes or tarantula when going to deep. In meditation …

I’ve always just seen darkness but with nothingness…

Like I’m blind..

Definitely there’s a good quiet and bad quiet…

It’s just a frequency a state of being..

The actual quietness is probably perfect to achieve it..

But something being so perfect might turn bad.. for least a minute.. maybe..

Miss Hepburn 10-07-2022 03:10 PM

A ''bad quiet''?
Only one I can think of at the moment would be when the forest or jungle goes quiet cuz there's danger!!!

Otherwise quite, to me, is peaceful.
If it wasn't it would not be quiet ---it would be filled with the chatter of thoughts. No?
Not that your thoughts can't be great.

(I am relating quiet with stillness --maybe others are not.)

Native spirit 10-07-2022 08:25 PM

Sometimes being alone with your thoughts in silence is a good thing,
being at one with oneself. is very Healing,


Namaste

dream jo 10-07-2022 08:33 PM

I don't know ask myself I always ask and I put a clog of a touch with myself there I always ask and put a club or protection prayer on myself 2 that cloak of protection can keep me safe if I'm only good for come through not bad only good spirit confirm not bad
But I'll have to ask about that one when I get back my class I will LST I like to work with your mother's spirit I like to let the spirit it's full of humour I do
But I'm not sure on that one

blackraven 22-07-2022 02:13 PM

Quietness can only be nasty or hard if you're not comfortable with your own mind chatter. I feel everyone needs alone time to experience silence. It's only then that we discover who we are at the deepest levels.

jaminhealth 11-08-2022 12:22 AM

Nasty? I can't imagine that one. The more quiet, the better...


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