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Yes exactly, why listen to reality and real people, rather than your own skewed misconceptions and fantasies, right? What's revealing in this thread is how many people veer towards the fantastical, the made up, the conjecture, the anger, and the simple pure delusions. The tabloids, Fox News and other personalities that rely on this mindset have done well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVp2U2p4lmE |
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Yes, because according to them, all the doctors and nurses are in on the big dark conspiracy, governments are, rich people are, the UN is, sick people are, the people who died are. I suspect these people feel marginalized, and the narrative of conspiracies has seeped deep in to their brain, rendering them easy to manipulate. There is no greater divisive force than paranoia, fear and an enemy (real or imagined) The ploy to cast the news media as unreliable was the most masterful stroke of the conspiracy makers - because to do so, reality now is pliable, truth is no longer real - it's whomever you believe. If there ever was the Devil, that would be a masterful stroke. “Conspiracy theories are really attractive. Figuring out patterns is one of the things that gets your brain to give you a nice dose of chemical reward, the little ping of dopamine and whatever else that keeps you smiling. As a result, your brain is pretty good at finding patterns, and at disregarding information that doesn’t fit. Which means it’s also pretty good at finding false patterns, and at confirmation bias, and a bunch of other things that can be fatal. Our brains are also really good at making us the center of a narrative, because it’s what we evolved for.” ― Elizabeth Bear |
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Not to my knowledge (:icon_eek:), but it’s what came to mind. Try it out for yourself.:cool: Best source of vitamin D if you exclude sunlight. |
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I think OP connects things well. Others will say it's ''conspiracy'', used in a manner to say it is controversial or fake information, but most of it can be backed up with evidence so it's just about what's going on in the world. And if you check what authorities and famous people want with the world, and organizations such as the UN, then it's not odd to make a connection between them and the p(l)andemic. |
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Glad you liked the video link .. :biggrin: I agree with what you have said . The thing about putting this into the conspiracy bracket creates a mainstream reflection of there being nutters running around making stuff up .. The thing is about all this, is that peeps that are questioning the virus are professional peeps who actually have a lifetime working in the filed of diseases and viruses . Similar to the disclosure program, there are peeps that have spent a career in the armed forces etc and were witnesses to the actual events . It's true to say in regards to the virus that they need to isolate it which they haven't been able to do or prove . This is why in the u.k. Piers Corbyn has written to the government to prove that the virus actually exists . Did anyone watch the interview on gmtv the other day . If this interview didn't show what's wrong with the mainstream media then I don't know what does lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elf6h_K4JH0 Getting back to the isolating of the virus there needs to be the testing of the virus in ways were Robert Koch explained through his years of practice as a microbiologist. You need to isolate the virus and then subject the virus to another peep/entity, be it another human or animal . So then when the subjected peep experiences the same symptoms then one has isolated the virus . This is why a virus like the measles has actually been isolated as that . The FACT is that what one is being tested for is not the VIRUS itself, because what is being shown to be a positive result when tested is simply a positive result for a biological manifestation that is created by the immune system when the body needs to respond to what is happening to it . This is a FACT . It's not a conspiracy theory haha What is created via the bodies immune system can occur when the body is stressed, or when the body is fighting off a manner of all ailments . It's not a positive result for the Covid Virus itself . As peeps say, you have to look at the so called experts and see who they represent . Doctors that go against the big pharma companies get ridiculed, scientists that speak against global warming get ridiculed etc etc . It's self evident that the media nowadays just play the tune they are told to play and speaking up against them is becoming harder and harder . I hope peeps are aware of this . The moment you do you are labelled a nutcase lol or a trouble maker . It's only going to get worse I dare say . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGxbaxviRVw. :) x daz x |
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The ''official'' position is also that the Earth is round, not flat. :D
That's a problem with ''alternative'' thinking, any crank can say ''see I told you, the officials are against my position, this means I must be right.'' no different from ''An angel talked to me in my dream, therefore my religion is right.'' But anyways... covid kills less than 0,3% of the inflicted. There's no significant difference in percentage of deaths when comparing lockdown vs. no-lockdown countries and regions. It's ** to have entire sectors on the brink of destruction (tourism, bars and restaurants), have people live unsociable lives and have ''online meetings'' for work. Noticed the increased disappointment when you pay with real money? Noticed the calls for more surveillance? Do you know this will accelerate with 5G in place? It will be more data mining and 'smart systems' everywhere. You and me are certainly fine with 4G or less, so that's not it. Notice how those calling for great change and a new revolution at the same time also call for wealth redistribution and social credit? I am not suggesting the pandemic and coming changes are deliberate and causal, but some do seize the opportunity and I expect a less free world. |
Firstly, I need to be very careful of what I say here, because the discussion of World Events is against forum rules and while I disagree with that rule, it is part of their TOS for my membership and use of this site.
We must understand that whether the virus is "real" or not, isn't the issue here. All I am prepared to say, is that it is just as "real" as Climate Change is. What we need to ask ourselves, is whether the "solution" is proportionate to the "problem" - that is, if anybody is truly aware of the "problem" beyond what the MSM (who is being supported by vested interests) informs us that it is in the first place. This leads us to question: "what is REAL?" "What is TRUE?" "What should I believe in?" and these are exactly the same questions that any spiritual seeker on the path asks from time to time...not only in relation to the Coronavirus, or what we see on the news, but to the authenticity of our perceptions in relation to what we call "reality" as a whole. If anything, the virus and all the narratives surrounding that, brings it home to us..as well as reminding us about our own mortality, which the Stoics remind us needs to be done from time to time to help us get the most out of life. Both you and I, live in NSW, Australia and we can't help but look on at our Victorian countrymen with sorrow and dismay. Part of us says "those poor people living under such brutal restrictions and tyranny" and the other part of us says "thank God I live in NSW" It is as if our expressions of gratitude must be at the behest of the suffering of others..We see the billboards: "Staying Apart Keeps Us Together" and then the realisation hits that we were never "apart" to begin with...we are ONE and always have been...but there are evil forces at work who don't want people realising that...who don't want people waking up to their true, Divine nature. In the absence of facts or truth, EVERYTHING is a "Conspiracy Theory" and the conspirator is the universe itself. It is the illusory energies of the Supreme Creator made manifest. This is called Maya..a warped reflection of itself. Yes, I have read stories about Agenda 21..the Rockefeller Lockstep Document, Bill Gates and his hydrogel nanobots in the vaccine, the UN NWO what do I think? That all this is just as "real" as all of the Scientific Modelling and the case numbers coming out of Victoria. Can we BELIEVE that is going to happen based on everything we have seen and read from David Icke, Alex Jones and such? SURE! Can we know for a FACT this is going to happen to us and to the world? NOPE! I am not discrediting any of this of course, I don't subscribe to labels or judgements..all I know it s, what is meant to happen WILL happen regardless and what can I DO about it? Nothing... nothing EXCEPT for working on myself and going within to find the source of Truth and resting within it and only then can I "change the World"... that is, if I still want to by then. |
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Interesting post Shivani,and something I can agree with. |
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This certainly rings true in many instances, perhaps in an ideal world if there was total harmony in ourselves in reflection of all things there wouldn't be the need to entertain the thoughts of being repressed or lied too or abused etc . We live in a world that reflects the need for some to stand tall and fight for what they believe in .. Otherwise black lives wouldn't matter, or woman rights to vote wouldn't matter . Some would rather die than give up their beliefs, their beliefs that have consumed them and perhaps this act in itself helps to move stubborn mountains that are saturated with regimental regimes . Perhaps a guru sat in a monastery somewhere is oblivious to what is going on outside of himself or does and doesn't care to entertain a thought either way about it . Perhaps things may change if the guru was living in the middle of it all being abused for having a different colour skin than the abuser .. A wise saying is that what you resent you become and in a similar vein when you are consumed by thoughts outside of yourself you become to certain degree those thoughts or at least carry that energy about you . From one perspective it could be said that the yolk is on the one that allows this to happen, but some will say a peep has gotta do what a peep has gotta do :biggrin: x daz x |
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Guru's will often say that they are ''detached'' from the world. Well, give it a little crisis and his followers won't be able to buy enough food from the shops. At other times a harvest from a garden might fail. When the economy is in decline (deliberately now) it will sooner or later hurt all of us. The so called enlightened guru may find himself fighting for a loaf of bread! :tongue: |
Not sure you even know what detachment means, Altair. If you were interested, many spiritual teachers talk about it.
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Hehe .. Yes perhaps .. it's difficult to say until the experiences becomes us . Environment is important but not always a reflection of how one feels obviously or how self aware one is . I think life's rollercoaster is how it should be to certain degrees for nothing stays the same does it . When life throws you a curve ball perhaps one can deal with it quite nicely, when life throws you a dozen all at once, perhaps it's not quite as easy lol . This is in part why I don't agree in the guru types are permanently in bliss after self realisation . Life has the habit of bringing things to the fore which creates a reaction or creates grief or anger .. it's okay for gurus to be angry :biggrin: The halo doesn't slip because you feel a particular way .. x daz x |
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No problemo .. :smile: (cheques in the post yer) :D x daz x |
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:biggrin: No worries, you made me laugh, it's on the house .. :hug3: x daz x |
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Is Covid real? It is to me. When you start burying your loved ones, friends, and family, it becomes very real. When you can't sit with them as they are dying, it becomes very real. When funerals aren't allowed, well that is real, too. When there are no hospital beds available, it becomes very real. When you are in isolation because of compromised immune systems, it becomes real. Yes, it is real. I wish it were not.....
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Covid aside,there's been a lot of celebrity deaths this year.
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You happen to have noticed, or heard about, the ones from this year. But what of all the other years - have you researched how many "celebrity deaths" there were in them? Folk are passing over all the time, celebrity and non-celebrity alike. |
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I've taken vitamin D for years. Have been tested for vit d deficiency and the test came back negative, as in my vit d was fine. I take Rx Vitamins Liqui-d3 2000 Iu. One drop a day gives me all the vitamin d I need. Vitamin d3 is what we take in supplements. When we go out in the sun the sun gives us vitamin d4 which activates the d3 we just ingested. So taking vit d3 can't be done alone. We need both d3 and d4 to protect our cells from viruses. |
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Hi Janielee, I am very sorry and sad that you contracted the disease and at the same time relieved that you have conquered it and come out of it successfully. I am sure that the adverse experience has made you a stronger person. Your story of healing can also inspire others and calm people here as well. It is also said by Ali Ibn Talib, an Islamic saint, that contracting disease does not confer spiritual merit in one, but will destroy negative karma or impurities in the soul. This is one way to look at the positive and a positive mind will aid in healing. :smile: |
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Real or not it has changed the World we now live in. What we have to remember is that there will always be some that believe in something and some that do not. No matter what it is there will always be something out there we might not all agree on. What I do know is that it was here before Canada where I live declared it. I had it last October, Heart in November and my daughter in December. We all have "lasting" effects from it and are waiting for the anti body testing to open. We will be a part of that study group. The effects of this "flu" are longer lasting life lasting it seems in some cases maybe so its a bit worse than the normal one's that hit hard. Real or not worth the panic modes or not better safe than sorry at times. I wonder if maybe the World needed to slow down a little bit that we needed to learn what we have at home matters and has a value to us. That our group of friends and family can be closer to home and deeper in meaning. I work in retail and every day I worry going to work, as we hire more and more new staff for the holidays we have lost that group we work with and trust keeping us safe. This too is a test in the human condition on trusting others. I do not feel its Political in nature I do feel its a lesson given out by a much higher power than mankind. Lynn |
I was ill last year with all the signs of covid.it has been here longer than we are led to believe.
I know of a couple of people who's loved passed with something other than the virus. only for it to say it was covid on the death certificate. I do know there are a group of Lawyers working with patients or their loved ones ,to sue the Health authority. Because their illnesses were forgotten about mainly cancer many have died or become so ill they can no longer have treatment. Namaste |
I've heard it before, that it this is some sort of ''lesson to slow down'', and everyone who told me this is financially stable, can work from home or is pensioned. Lots of government workers are fantastically happy, spending time with the kids at home, lol. For a lot of people the lockdowns will have lasting consequences and it might take decades to fix. No doubt we'll be presented with ''solutions'' to existing problems, such as universal basic income and other bizarre ideas that can only hurt the economy long term. All planned anyway, like everything major that has happened this year.
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I've heard so many theories on this Covid pandemic,I don't know what to believe. All I know is hat it can be deadly if you are older or with an underlying health condition and you don't want to catch it.
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Covid-19 was detected in sewage samples taken towards the end of last year so it was around for some time before being officially acknowledged. Other than to prevent another outbreak of Covid-19 or something as virulent or worse, there's little to be gained by apportioning blame.
Experts warn that there are ongoing and growing risks from so-called wet markets and from humankind encroaching more and more into territory that once was the habitat only of wild animals. To make effective changes many sections of humankind would have to change their way-of-life in significant ways. We can debate how likely that is but factions and governments alike aren't known for co-operating with one another. Changes need to happen for reasons outside of the pandemic because much was wrong BC. The generations to come face a very uncertain world but couldn't that be said of just about every generation from the past? |
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