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bobjob 21-04-2022 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BigJohn
What was Spiritualism 'before' Modern Day Spiritualism?

History is your specialty. You tell us.

bobjob 21-04-2022 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BigJohn
But then, some do not want to discuss or hear anything about history so it becomes a moot subject.

It's not moot because some aren't interested in history.
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When Modern Day Spiritism 'emerged', why is it Christianity seems to have played a key factor?
Spiritism isn't Spiritualism.

bobjob 21-04-2022 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BigJohn
That quote and the quotes before it are paraphrases from the Arthur Findlay College and is part of a Course description on Mental Mediumship.

They're not quotations if they're paraphrases.

BigJohn 21-04-2022 02:53 PM

I wrote "Please Note: MM occurs through the mediumís own consciousness, without the use of the five physical senses. The medium relays what they feel, sense, see, or hear to the recipient. The faculties used by mediums are Clairvoyance, Clairsentience and Clairaudience."

the original quote was:

"Mental mediumship, as taught at the Arthur Findlay College, occurs through the mediumís own consciousness, without the use of the five physical senses. The medium relays what they feel, sense, see, or hear to the recipient. The faculties used by mediums are Clairvoyance (clear-seeing), Clairsentience (clear-sensing or feeling) and Clairaudience (clear-hearing)."

The Arthur Findlay College's position on Mental Mediumship is the same as mine.

BigJohn 21-04-2022 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bobjob
It's not moot because some aren't interested in history.
Spiritism isn't Spiritualism.


My mistake. I should have written Spiritualism and the question still stands "When Modern Day Spiritualism 'emerged', why is it Christianity seems to have played a key factor?"

Next will be a discussion of Swedenborg.

I was going to write about Jesus and his followers as it relates to Spiritualism but the subject seems too controversial. Same holds true with other religions such as Buddhism.

Still_Waters 22-04-2022 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BigJohn
There are numerous messages recoded in the Bible that were from Spirit. I would include Samuel's message to be one of the more important messages. It is just my own personal selection. On a personal note, the message from 'Spirit' mentioned in the Bible is the one dealing with Cyrus the Great.


I can't find anything about Samuel's message from the Spirit regarding Cyrus the Great.

BigJohn 22-04-2022 02:32 PM

Samuel did not speak about Cyrus the Great. That messages about Cyrus the Great are basically found in Isaiah.

Still_Waters 23-04-2022 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BigJohn
Samuel did not speak about Cyrus the Great. That messages about Cyrus the Great are basically found in Isaiah.


I am familiar with the quotes attributed to Isaiah that some say are references to Cyrus.


However, there are also Biblical scholars that question the timing of such "prophecies". They suggest that the "prophecies" may have been written after-the-fact.


https://www.christiancourier.com/art...lical-prophecy

EXCERPT:

Incredible declarations of this nature have led critics (who reject the possibility of predictive prophecy) to suggest that these portions of the book of Isaiah were added much later—after the fact, as it were.

BigJohn 24-04-2022 06:13 AM

There was one time in my life that I would go to a lot of seances; sometimes as many as 4 in one day! At the same time, I used to go to 3 Spiritualist Churches on Sunday and went to other meeting during the week. From all of this, I got to give talks at two of the Churches and would give out messages. I also learned a 'lot of the tricks' and 'on my own', found easier and simpler methods to develop.

I also spent time in other belief systems in which I gave talks. Sure you can find information refuting anything and everything in Judaism and Christianity but I don't think this is the Forum to do it. If you look at some of my posts in Judaism and Christianity, I try to explain in several places that if one examines, for example, the writing styles in Hebrew of the creation accounts, it seems odvious to me they were written by different persons or groups.

hazada guess 24-04-2022 01:18 PM

Pardon me for interrupting BigJohn ,but I would like to know what you mean by 'lot of the tricks'.


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