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jatin_sadana 23-05-2020 02:26 PM

What happens to bacteria when they die
 
Do bacteria have a soul, do they learn any lessons like humans?

I am not asking anyone to try and answer logically, rather if someone actually has a knowledge (not from reading books etc).

inavalan 23-05-2020 11:39 PM

They evolve too, at their level. I guess, they're just developing instincts.

Lord_Viskey 31-05-2020 05:37 PM

Wouldn't it just be easier to predict that bacteria are in the same kinship with other organic substances - such as that are like human flesh and bone, or minerals and molecules - and that like these, the return to a finite (material) universe is inevitable?

Ontologically speaking, I believe there'd be a "clash of interests" with other living entities. Are we to assume that the evolutionary goal of E. coli or Salmonella is to become more "Neisseria lactamica-like," just so we could all co-exist somewhere down the road of time?

The physical states are designed to be ecosystems, so nothing is wasted, and is only recycled and re-used - in the microcosm that they are. The best that I could hope for in a bacteriological evolutionary probability, is to have it reabsorb into the universal ecosystem, where molecules and enzymes may be rearranged so as to become something integral within the biological organs of higher organic life forms.

An evolving human sentience allows us to believe that we can integrate with other sentience - to coexist with other working, functioning things. I suspect that simple bacteria's "highest order" of evolution could pretty much only be something entirely benign. What value is there in banality?
Why would that be something to soulfully strive for?

iamthat 31-05-2020 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jatin_sadana
Does bacteria have a soul, do they learn any lessons like humans?

I am not asking anyone to try and answer logically, rather if someone actually has a knowledge (not from reading books etc).


You are restricting possible responses by asking if someone actually has direct knowledge. How many of us will have seen bacteria die and know what happens next regarding their consciousness?

Because bacteria are living organisms and thus would surely express some kind of consciousness. We can only hypothesise, based on whatever understanding we have of these matters.

One possibility is that animals have group souls and so they express a group consciousness, unlike humans who have individual souls. On this basis bacteria express the consciousness of a group soul, which is itself a part of a greater group soul and so on.

Do bacteria learn lessons from their activities? We humans learn lessons based on our experiences and the choices we make. Bacteria serve particular functions within physical existence, but I suggest that the element of choice is lacking. They simply do what they are designed to do.

This may not be the kind of answer you want as it is all based on reading books, but I don't think you will get any answers based on direct knowledge.

Peace

Native spirit 31-05-2020 08:16 PM

I have to agree with that



Namaste

Rah nam 01-06-2020 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jatin_sadana
Does bacteria have a soul, do they learn any lessons like humans?

I am not asking anyone to try and answer logically, rather if someone actually has a knowledge (not from reading books etc).





How would you know if someone makes a statement, where this information cam from?
There is a very fine line between believing and knowing.


In regards to bacteria, the bacterium does not have a soul, yet the bacteria are part of an oversoul.


And yes the oversoul will evolve and inhabit higher life forms and individualize over a long period of time.

Bacteria will change, whether we can call this evolve, is an other question.


On a side note, the virus is not part of an oversoul, and has been created outside of this spectrum.

jatin_sadana 08-06-2020 01:23 PM

What is virus then?

Tobi 08-06-2020 08:03 PM

Jatin sadana, I am glad you asked this question, because I have no idea and will be interested in the theories and ideas here.

This is some information about viruses and bacteria, addressing the question about whether they are living beings or not:
https://medium.com/the-philipendium/...e-8664a9496ece

Rah nam 09-06-2020 04:41 AM

Tobi's linked article seams to confirm what I have suggested.
I get my information from my people (non physical)
Their replies to my questions are short yet precis.
A long time ago I was given to understand, the more words that are used, the more inaccuracies are in a message.

So, if a virus is not a living entity, than it must be a artificial creation.
In this case created by an artificial intelligence.

If we try to answer the question, who created the artificial intelligence, we would get into a realm which is very dark, and I don't want to go there, on this forum. There is enough dark energy on this forum, and I don't want to feed it any further.

Busby 09-06-2020 07:06 AM

I would simply suggest that the answer to your question lies in the cosmic intelligence located in every atom. As everything is made of atoms it seems that even bacteria respond to the feedback resulting from existing in the universe - the role they play in the totality of life is one guided by the forces of life.


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