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Busby 18-08-2021 01:38 PM

Reading through all this reminds me topically of the Taliban.
How have we managed to continue to credit such beliefs as being in any way valid?
Look out of the window.

Soul Seeker 18-08-2021 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AbodhiSky
What do you base that on? In Genesis 3:6 Eve talks to the serpent then eats the fruit then gives some to Adam and he eats it. Eve started that whole thing by talking to the serpent.\

Good point.
The serpent is shown as female. This is important to the Christian misogyny.

Her function in the story seems to be to help Eve and Adam realize that eternal life without the knowledge in the tree of knowledge, is not worth living.

Jews call that Original Virtue and our elevation, whereas the Christians call it a fall and Original Sin.

Even as they sing of Adam's sin being a happy fault and nrcessary to god's great plan.

No sin would have derailed god's plan.

Christianity stole the story but not the moral of the story, which they reversed.

Regards
DL

Soul Seeker 18-08-2021 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Traveler
Adam and Eve is an interesting fairytale. They're supposedly the parents of mankind. If that were true, inbreeding would have doomed the species long before now. And after they got kicked out of the garden, we learn of other races so they weren't the only 2 humans after all.

Adam, spelled with a lower case, which is how Jews write, means tribe or nation. adam represents all men and Eve all women.
As universal parents, A & E are good examples as they show that life without knowledge is not the best choice.
No fairy tale has ever created the harm to society than the Eden fairy tale has.

Regards
DL

Soul Seeker 18-08-2021 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghaleon
The Adam & Eve story in Christianity is an inverted story of what actually happened.

Nice presentation. Thanks.
I agree that Christianity reversed the moral of the story from the Jewish Original Virtue and man's elevation to the fall and Original Sin.

Most Christians are not aware of this and do not question why they created a false guilt for man and failure for both man and god.

Regards
DL

Ghaleon 18-08-2021 05:21 PM

En.ki/Yaldaboath utterly hates his mother (Sophia) and therefore the original "sin" was put on Eve. There was no sin in the first place but being the chief creator he is also head of the patriarchal regime. He in fact sinned against the aeons, all the immortal ones himself when he told his angels (different star races to whom most are rebelling Orions) "I am God and there is no other God than me" from that point they all kept their eye on him.
"You are wrong Samael (God of the blind) for there is a God higher than you and he is the son of man" Immediately a human figure appeared and they were all blinded by his light.

When En.ki/Lucifer created the first physical human body a long time ago it was not animated and did not have a soul. Fearing that the true spirited human would enter his fashioned body he left Adam alone. After 40 days Sophia blew her breath into Adam and he could move around but couldn't fully stand up.

The Authorities saw this and they were disturbed and 7 archangels descended to see what was going on. They asked "The breath within you, who was he and whence he came"? Adam answered them "I came through the power of the human for the destruction of your work" When he said this they praised him because he had given them a day of rest for they're imposiousness. They saw how helpless Adam was and they celebrated before returning to their respective dimensions/heavens.

The Orions anticipated that The Overlords would created they're own version of humans in ignorance. Sophia had already long created her human first so the plan was for the spirited humans to enter Yaldaboaths fashioned bodies made of atoms and lighten up the construct from within and the fashioned bodies would be fences for the light!

Traveler 18-08-2021 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Soul Seeker
No fairy tale has ever created the harm to society than the Eden fairy tale has.

Christianity has caused a lot of harm and still is causing harm, IMHO.

Miss Hepburn 18-08-2021 06:38 PM

Please remember Administration has asked for 2-3 sentences
in the quote boxes...since around Nov 2020, now!

DesertRose 18-08-2021 08:13 PM

It's not only in Christianity.
Islam teaches its followers that women will form the majority of the people of Hell.

How can people believe such a thing, it's ridiculous.

iamthat 18-08-2021 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Soul Seeker
As universal parents, A & E are good examples as they show that life without knowledge is not the best choice.
No fairy tale has ever created the harm to society than the Eden fairy tale has.


Maybe this is why A & E nowadays stands for Accident and Emergency! :smile:

Peace

BigJohn 19-08-2021 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Traveler
Christianity has caused a lot of harm and still is causing harm, IMHO.


Other religions have caused thee share of harm in the past and present. No need to blame Christianity for all the woes in the World.


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