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Miss Hepburn 11-08-2021 01:00 AM

Now this is some sweet NDE
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCOpzLBYeto

This was so simple and clear and honest - I loved listening to this woman.
I hope you do, too.:smile:

Guillaume 11-08-2021 11:45 AM

Oh yeah, thank you for sharing!

hazada guess 11-08-2021 02:06 PM

Excellent.Thanks Miss Hepburn,You can tell she's sincere.

Still_Waters 11-08-2021 03:46 PM

Having had a mind-boggling, life-transforming NDE myself many years ago, I have since studied numerous instances of near death experiences. In many cases, the experiences were consistent with the person's belief system.
After listening to just the beginning of the video, I immediately sensed that this was an NDE typical of a Christian. I checked out the speaker's bio and my projection of her belief system turned out to be quite accurate. This did not surprise me. The rest of the video confirmed that.

https://www.capegazette.com/article/...xplorer/218269

In any case, her experience was interesting and what stood out most was that the world is PERFECT as it is.
The life review and other aspects of the experience were typical of many NDEs.
Thanks for sharing.

hazada guess 11-08-2021 04:10 PM

the experiences were consistent with the person's belief system.
This is so true.

Still_Waters 11-08-2021 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hazada guess
the experiences were consistent with the person's belief system.
This is so true.

We are in complete agreement on that point. It's almost predictable. :biggrin:

Guillaume 11-08-2021 05:01 PM

But some people were open and experienced things that then completely changed their life, beyond what they could think or believe.

I like this one, at the end:
https://youtu.be/Yh2DpUCzsNM?t=1657

Still_Waters 12-08-2021 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Guillaume
But some people were open and experienced things that then completely changed their life, beyond what they could think or believe.
I like this one, at the end:
https://youtu.be/Yh2DpUCzsNM?t=1657


My own NDE many years ago, when I emerged symptom-free from a 3-day "irreversible coma", was mind-boggling, life-transforming, and completely alien to my Roman Catholic belief system. This was even before there was so much literature on the subject.

Yes. I agree that some people have indeed experienced things that completely changed their lives (as in my case) but, after studying a lot of NDEs, I've noticed that most are consistent with the person's belief system with some very definite commonalities.

Miss Hepburn 12-08-2021 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Still_Waters
... but, after studying a lot of NDEs, I've noticed that most are consistent with the person's
belief system with some very definite commonalities.

I didn't know why there is a 'but' there.
I thought in our circles it was common knowledge that we get what we expect and on the Other Side, that, and what we are comfy with.
A devote Hindu could see Ganesh or Krishna and the spirit guides in colorful silks instead of plain robes.
A 'but' seems to place a negative twist on the event.
She didn't attribute any of the spirits with Jesus or Paul - and commented she really had no thoughts.
You might think she would have seen the tall, bald man with the beautiful face as maybe Peter or Abraham...but no....
he was just a wise loving being, period...
one reason I enjoyed this NDE a lot...it was non-denominational.

https://youtu.be/Yh2DpUCzsNM?t=1657 Guillaume, This one seemed to point out a life change around 16:50, more than at the ending point, imo.
I enjoyed his a lot. :) Daniel, a German guy.

Still Waters- Oh! I didn't know your link is her obit! April 2021.
I don't often click onto links -I'm glad I did this one.
https://www.capegazette.com/article/...xplorer/218269

Guillaume 12-08-2021 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
Guillaume, This one seemed to point out a life change around 16:50, more than at the ending point, imo.

Good point, indeed.
It's really amazing how similar are the effects of deep meditation and NDEs.

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Originally Posted by Still_Waters
My own NDE many years ago, when I emerged symptom-free from a 3-day "irreversible coma", was mind-boggling, life-transforming

Do you know the true reason for it to have happened? Had you (unconsciously/deeply within you) planned to go on a wrong direction and then to "wake up" by this way, or is it something you still can't explain?

Miss Hepburn 13-08-2021 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Guillaume
It's really amazing how similar are the effects of deep meditation and NDEs.

Thank you...No one mentions this very much.
But, YES! ---Long, deep meditation and suddenly I have exp's like NDE folks!!
Beautiful, holy, outta this world, so to speak. :notworthy:

Still_Waters 13-08-2021 02:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
I didn't know why there is a 'but' there.
I thought in our circles it was common knowledge that we get what we expect and on the Other Side, that, and what we are comfy with.

one reason I enjoyed this NDE a lot...it was non-denominational.






You're absolutely right, as usual :D , that I shouldn't have put my "but" in there :D as it should more appropriately have been an "and" since "but" in that context does have a negative connotation.

In some ways, the NDE was indeed non-denominational, as you duly noted. I will concede that. However, as soon as I started listening to it (even before the explicit Christian references), I intuited her Christian orientation and subsequently checked her obituary which confirmed my intuition.

In assessing Truth, one eventually looks for conditioning or biases that influence such experiences. In this way, one can better arrive at Truth by eliminating as best as possible the conditioned aspects of the reported experience. Henry James did that quite well in his classic "Varieties of Religious Experiences".

Still_Waters 13-08-2021 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Guillaume

Do you know the true reason for it to have happened? Had you (unconsciously/deeply within you) planned to go on a wrong direction and then to "wake up" by this way, or is it something you still can't explain?


I completely misinterpreted some of the directive aspects of my NDE. However, as life progressed (in terms of years, not days or weeks), everything became crystal clear. Nothing remained unexplained. :smile:


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