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Miss Hepburn 24-09-2021 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by eninn
The Inquistion and (Deuteronomy 13: 6-9)

As I said - in all scriptures these things can be found...so there is no real need to bring them up.
I would ask anyone on this Forum ..."Do you believe in or support the above things?"
Th answer will be, No ---except in extreme cases.

By the way ---I am not a Christian or Jew...and do not support many things written by men in the Bible.
As I would never support cruel things written in the Qu'ran...and do not promote or push either.
(Many loving and wise instructions I do support, tho.)

Miss Hepburn 24-09-2021 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by eninn
In the end, the burning of Jews and Muslims was done by the Christian Church
This is what we see today from the occupation of countries and the killing of children, animals and humans
Contrary to Islam, it tolerates the people of countries

You can address this stuff to someone else, since I follow no organized religion.:wink:
I certainly know what the (Catholic, esp) 'Church' has done in the name of the Pope or even Christ.
And we all know in modern times what some Muslims have done; lacking tolerance with bombs and killings.
Religions and scriptures are not perfect...as we all can see.

eninn 24-09-2021 03:49 PM

think, as you wish, this is your opinion,

But it is not the opinion of non-Muslim orientalists
about Islam and the history of Muslims' actions in the countries in which Islam entered.

By Lacy O’Leary
History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping the world is one of the most fantastically absurd myths historians have ever repeated.

A religion which prohibits the killing of women, children, the elderly, monks, animals and which furthermore prohibits the destruction of flora and fauna as well as dwellings in time of war, can only be a religion advocating peace and love of neighbor while being realistic, war is sometimes a necessary evil.

It would be really absurd to consider the resistance fighters, or those who wage a war to defend their homeland, violent or bloodthirsty people for the simple reason that they do not want to live under enemy occupation. In this specific example, it is evident that war is becoming a necessary evil and that not doing so is injustice and a clear lack of love for justice and peace.

And as I told you, do not judge the Qur’an before studying it and knowing the reason for the revelation of the verses

eninn 24-09-2021 03:50 PM

in the bible
they use the title (Far’ah) - that is: Pharaoh - to refer to the kings of ancient Egypt, the same as the king of Egypt in the time of Joseph, peace be upon him, and its king in the time of Moses, peace be upon him. We read - for example - in the Book of Genesis (41:14): “Then Pharaoh sent and called Joseph, and they brought him hastily out of the dungeon: and he shaved himself, and changed his raiment, and came in unto Pharaoh.

And in the story of Moses, peace be upon him,

the governor at the time of Moses is referred to as “pharaoh”:

[]Then the Lord said to Moses, “Go to Pharaoh and say to him, ‘This is what the Lord says: Let my people go, so that they may worship me.
Exodus 8

To other consistent texts describing the King of Egypt as "Pharaoh", regardless of the time in which he lived.

But the Qur’an is the word of God that never makes mistakes, so the Qur’an is very accurate
Moses was not the only prophet who lived in the lands of Egypt in ancient history. The prophet Joseph lived there before him.

We see a certain parallel when reading the stories of Moses and Joseph. When addressing the Egyptian governor during Joseph’s time, the word “malik” is used in the Quran:

“And the king said, "Bring him to me; I will appoint him exclusively for myself." And when he spoke to him, he said, "Indeed, you are today established [in position] and trusted."”. "[Quran, Sura Yousouf 12:54]

On the contrary, the governor at the time of Moses is referred to as “pharaoh”:

“We surely gave Moses nine clear signs.1 ˹You, O Prophet, can˺ ask the Children of Israel. When Moses came to them, Pharaoh said to him, “I really think that you, O Moses, are bewitched.””. "[Quran, Sura Al-Isra 17: 101]

The historical chronicles that are available today show the reason for the different nomenclature of these governors. The word “pharaoh” was originally the name given to the royal palace in ancient Egypt. The governors of the old dynasty did not use this title. The use of the word pharaoh as the title of governor did not begin until the New Kingdom era. This period begins with the 18th dynasty (1532-1292 BC) and the word pharaoh was adopted as a title of respect from the 20th dynasty (945-730 BC).

The miraculous nature of the Qur'an is once again evident: Joseph lived in the days of the Old Kingdom and therefore the word king "malik" was used for the Egyptian governor rather than the "pharaoh". In contrast, as Moses lived in New Kingdom times, the governor of Egypt is called “pharaoh”.

There is no doubt that one has to know the history of Egypt in order to be able to make such a distinction. However, the history of ancient Egypt was completely forgotten from the 4th century onwards as the hieroglyphics could no longer be deciphered and it was not rediscovered until the 19th century. Therefore, there was no in-depth knowledge of Egyptian history when the Quran was revealed

sky 24-09-2021 04:13 PM

[ Quote eninn,
'Because the Bible says to kill the disbeliever, with your hand, even if it be your own flesh and blood.']

As does the Koran, so they are both as bad as one another.......

eninn 24-09-2021 06:26 PM

God says in the Qur’an

Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly. [Al-Mumtahana, 8]

The verse explains to Muslims the method by which they are to deal with non-Muslims
Which is that the non-Muslims who do not fight us,
Nor do they help harm the Muslims
Muslims must treat these people with justice and mercy

eninn 11-10-2021 09:55 PM


“Did We not make the earth a resting place? And the mountains as stakes?” (Quran 78:6-7)

The Quran indicates that mountains have deep roots by using the word stakes to describe them. In fact mountains do have deep roots, and the word stakes is an accurate description for them. A book titled ‘Earth’ by Geophysicist Frank Press explains that mountains are like stakes, and are buried deep under the surface of the earth. , the height of which is approximately 9 km above ground, has a root deeper than 125 km.

The fact that mountains have deep ‘stake’ like roots was not known, until after the development of the theory of plate tectonics in the beginning of the 20th century.

eninn 18-10-2021 07:29 AM

Muhammad ibn (son of) Abdullah ibn (son of) Abdul Mutalib, was born on 12 Rabi 'Awwal in the year 570 C.E. (Christian Era) in Makkah, (today: Saudi Arabia) and he died in 633 C.E. in Yathrib (today: Madinah, Saudi Arabia)

In Arabic the word prophet (nabi) is derived from the word naba which means news. Thus we deduce that a prophet spreads the news of God and His message, they are in a sense God’s ambassadors on earth. Their mission is to convey the message to worship One God. This includes, calling the people to God, explaining the message, bringing glad tidings or warnings and directing the affairs of the nation. All the prophets were anxious to convey God’s message sincerely and completely and this included the last prophet, Muhammad. During his final sermon Prophet Muhammad asked the congregation three times whether he had delivered the message, and called on God to witness their answer, which was a resounding “yes!”.

As well as the essence of their call to One God, another accepted sign of the truth of the prophets is how they live their lives. The accounts of Prophet Muhammad’s life that we have inherited from our righteous predecessors illustrate that Muhammad’s Prophethood was guided by God from the very beginning. Long before, Prophethood Muhammad was being prepared to guide humankind to the straight path and his life experiences stood him in good stead for such a weighty mission. Then at the age of 40 when Prophethood was bestowed upon him, God continued to support and affirm his mission. Any account of Muhammad’s life is filled with examples of his exemplary character; he was merciful, compassionate, truthful, brave, and generous, while striving solely for the rewards of the Hereafter. The way Prophet Muhammad dealt with his companions, acquaintances, enemies, animals and even inanimate objects left no doubt that he was ever mindful of God.

Muhammad’s birth was accompanied by many so called miraculous events and the talk of the extraordinary events no doubt functioned as signs of Prophethood,

Special but not unique circumstances surrounded childhood of Prophet Muhammad and these undoubtedly had a bearing on his character. By the time he was eight years old he had suffered through the death of both his parents and his beloved grandfather Abdul Muttalib. He was left in the care of his uncle and great supporter Abu Talib. Thus even as a young boy he had already suffered great emotional and physical upheaval. Both the many chroniclers of Muhammad’s life and the Quran acknowledge his disrupted life.

Did He not find you (O Muhammad) an orphan and gave you a refuge? (Quran 93:6)

Muhammad’s uncle Abu Talib was poor and struggled to keep his family fed, thus during his adolescence Muhammad worked as a shepherd. From this occupation he learned to embrace solitude and developed characteristics such as patience, cautiousness, care, leadership and an ability to sense danger. Shepherding was an occupation that all the prophets of God we know of had in common. ‘…The companions asked, “Were you a shepherd?” He replied, “There was no prophet who was not a shepherd.”’[1]

In his teens Muhammad sometimes travelled with Abu Talib, accompanying caravans to trade centres. On at least one occasion, he is said to have travelled as far north as Syria. Older merchants recognized his character and nicknamed him Al-Amin, the one you can trust. Even in his youth he was known as truthful and trustworthy. One story that is accepted by most Islamic scholars and historians is the account of one of Prophet Muhammad’s trips to Syria.

The story goes that the monk Bahira foretold the coming Prophethood and counselled Abu Talib to “guard his nephew carefully”. According to biographer Ibn Ishaq, as the caravan in which Prophet Muhammad was travelling approached the edge of town, Bahira could see a cloud that appeared to be shading and following a young man. When the caravan halted under the shadow of some trees, Bahira “looked at the cloud when it over-shadowed the tree, and its branches were bending and drooping over the apostle of God until he was in the shadow beneath it.” After Bahira witnessed this he observed Muhammad closely and asked him many questions concerning a number of Christian prophecies he had read and heard about.

The young Muhammad was distinguished among his people for his modesty, virtuous behaviour and graceful manners, thus it was no surprise for his companions to see him, even as a youth many years before Prophethood, shun superstitious practices and keep away from drinking alcohol, eating meat slaughtered on stone altars or attending idolatrous festivals. By the time he reached adulthood Muhammad was thought of as the most reliable and trustworthy member of the Meccan community. Even those who concerned themselves with petty tribal squabbles acknowledged Muhammad’s honesty and integrity.

Muhammad’s virtues and good moral character was established from a young age, and God continued to support and guide him. When he was 40 years old Muhammad was given the means to change the world, the means to benefit the whole of humanity


The greatest man to ever walk the earth - YouTube

eninn 26-10-2021 11:28 AM

Pain Receptors

For a long time it was thought that the sense of feeling and pain was dependent on the brain. However it has been discovered that there are pain receptors present in the skin[. Without these pain receptors, a person would not be able to feel pain.

Consider the following verse on pain:

“We shall send those who reject Our revelations to the (Hell) Fire. When their skins have been burned away, We shall replace them with new ones so that they may continue to feel the pain: God is Almighty, All-Wise.” (Quran 4:56)

God tells the people who reject his message that when they are in Hell and their skins are burnt off (so they can’t feel any pain), he will give them new skins so that they continue to feel the pain.

The Quran makes it clear that pain is dependent upon on the skin. The discovery of pain receptors in the skin is a fairly recent discovery for Biology.

Islam and Modern Science - Human Aspect - Skin & Sensation - Part 1 of 5

رحلة حمزة لاعتناق الإسلام والصعوبات التي واجهها وإجاباته على أسئلتكم YouTube
لماذا الخلود في النار؟ امراة تسأل وصبور يجيب YouTube

eninn 03-11-2021 12:01 PM

Allah the name of God

actually Allah is the name itself of The Most Supreme Creator, the Lord of the worlds which is also uniquely synonymous too since with this word Allah by all semetic religions (see video below for proofs) was referred only to the Creator of the worlds which did not need much explanation even to the pagan Arabs because they have been using right from the days of Prophet Ishmael, the son of Prophet Abraham who built the kaaba from 5000 years ago

As seen in this verse of Quran 29:61 which is addressed to the idolators and pagans of Arabia

“If you asked them, "Who created the heavens and earth and subjected the sun and the moon?" they would surely say, " Allah ." Then how are they deluded?”

So this proves Allah was also synonymous but only to the Supreme power and not to other gods as they had many gods whom the pagans worshipped. The Quran sura 112 introduced Allah again to the pagans in the right precise sense since they had started to forget the pure nature of Allah that was taught to them by Prophet Abraham though they were using the name of Allah even before the coming of Quran since Prophets Muhammad ﷺ's father name was Abdullah or Servant of Allah. Another incident that substantiates this claim is when the incident of the year of the elephant took place the pagans stopped to worship all idols for about 7 years only worshipping Allah, the Lord of the Kaaba.

The name Abdullah means submission and servitude to allah alone
So that's why when some translate the Allah as God during shahada or testimony to embrace Islam they read a
“there is no God but Allah and Muhammad PBUH is Messenger of Allah “

And this verse from 17:110 also reiterates the same, note that Allah calls himself as Allah and not just ilah in this verse
“Say, "Call upon Allah or call upon the Most Merciful. Whichever [name] you call - to Him belong the best names." And do not recite [too] loudly in your prayer or [too] quietly but seek between that an [intermediate] way.”

since the pagans did have many gods who they thought as powerful to save them help them but they also worshiped Allah whom they believed as the Ultimate Creator of the world. But still rebellious or idiotic enough to associate daughters to Allah whom they thought as Angels and partners to Allah the bogus statues of dead Saints. Since the word God in English can be misused to refer multiple gods or masculine or feminine ie Goddess etc Muslims call Allah to show that they mean the God of the pure Monotheist Prophet Abraham since the word Allah cannot be used in multiple sense nor refers any gender.

Elohim El, Elah, Alah
In the Bible, God is very often referred to as ‘Elohim’ in the Hebrew language. The ‘im’ in the ending is a plural of honour and God is referred to as ‘El’ or ‘Elah’ in the English Bible with commentary, edited by reverend C. I. Scofield. ‘Elah’ is alternatively spelled as ‘Alah’. The difference in spelling is only of a single ‘L’. Muslims spell Allah as ‘Allah’ while the Reverend has spelled it as Alah and they pronounce it as ‘Elah’. Muslims pronounce it as Allah. Hebrew and Arabic are sister languages therefore we say it should be pronounced as ‘Allah’ and not as ‘Elah’.

The video will show how Allah was used by all semetic religions.
Ahmed Deedat Answer - Where was the word 'ALLAH' lost by Jews and Christians? youtube

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