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Viswa 30-07-2021 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HITESH SHAH
God does not forbid relations between men/women . He call them sinners only when it is illicit , clandestine , undeclared made without the knowledge of world and without giving care / thought to the consequence of it and which is pursued solely for lust. Such relations between husband / wife is pious and in fact every religion celebrates such relations in the form of marriage and gives its sanctity .


Not just it. Even the 'desire' to eat the "APPLE" of EDEN too as a 'sin'.

Sir, 'sin' is nothing but to forget "HIM" and ruun for desires. "GOOD" is to think about "HIM" and 'evil' is to 'think' other than "HIM" and it's pleasures.

Sorry, I'm not ready to debate this. I'm not insulting those people too. Fools meaning to act 'stupid' by forgetting "HIM" and not being serious and "REALIZE" him. This is what I mean. Other than that, I'm so lovable to them and so don't interfere in their desires and also help them if they request me humane/moral means.

But, misusing body/mind for pleasures/deisres are all "FOOLS". I won't change/move from it. I'm strong. Please don't waste your time in it.

Viswa 30-07-2021 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by HITESH SHAH
What if that woman happens to be my wife . Is there anything wrong .


There is nothing right/wrong. It's all your 'interest/desire'. Whatever you 'desire' as pleasure from her, you will suffer. It's a general rule of "desire/attachments". If you like it, you are free to continue it.

If not, "STOP" desiring. Surrender to "HIM" as 'all pervading real' one and merge with him in time and stop continue 'sin' (i.e. birth). That's all.

HITESH SHAH 30-07-2021 06:45 PM

forgetting
 
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Originally Posted by Viswa
Sir, 'sin' is nothing but to forget "HIM" and ruun for desires. "GOOD" is to think about "HIM" and 'evil' is to 'think' other than "HIM" and it's pleasures.

But, misusing body/mind for pleasures/deisres are all "FOOLS". I won't change/move from it. I'm strong. Please don't waste your time in it.


I dont want to change u . U can carry on . BTW the aforesaid quotes are great. Keep pursuing it single mindedly. You would definitely realize Him .

Viswa 30-07-2021 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HITESH SHAH
Then very few may join u .

I'm not here to seek 'security' from 'them.
Even it is none - it won't affect me.
I'm here to express as a 'duty'. I finished it. Whomever question me in this thread regarding this - I will reply them. I'm not interested them to join me.
I'm here only to "STOP" the 'serious' person's movement in search (If there is one). If not, No problem.

Viswa 30-07-2021 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
I love not quoting ---a few are fun, tho.

Viswa ---since your profile does not say ...may I ask your orig country or
your first language?
Well.. and what does Viswa signify to you? Thanks. :)


Country - India. First Language - Tamil.

Signifies in which manner? Any 'memory/experience' he accumulated in the name of "Viswa"? or the name "Viswanath"? The 'name' signifies - "master of the Universe". I'm not concerned about 'memory/experience' of these 24 years. I lived in the way I desired - I felt pleasure - I suffered - That's all. I Neither appreciate nor regret any experience, except 'Influence' of Krishna in my life, which I always 'amazed' off. I don't know whether it's my previous life's penance/surrender towards him. But he exists in many experiences.

Viswa 30-07-2021 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HITESH SHAH
I dont want to change u . U can carry on . BTW the aforesaid quotes are great. Keep pursuing it single mindedly. You would definitely realize Him .


:hug2:

"HE" would be pleased, if you too negate everything and start your "Blissful" journey towards him.

HITESH SHAH 30-07-2021 07:09 PM

my journey
 
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Originally Posted by Viswa
:hug2:

"HE" would be pleased, if you too negate everything and start your "Blissful" journey towards him.


Thanks for your divine advice . Seeking may start with negativity but has to terminate into the vast ocean of positivity . If u see Shakaracharya's Niravana Shatakam , he describes what he's not in first five shlokas and in last finally describes who he is in positive and profound way .

So negativity may be the beginning of wisdom but certainly not the end of it .

Viswa 30-07-2021 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HITESH SHAH
So negativity may be the beginning of wisdom but certainly not the end of it .


Yes. Those slokas formed when he left his mother and seek 'sanyasa'.

He himself not represented to others in this way. But a 'guru' to test him - asked him "who he is?" - so Nirvana Shathakam born.

It is not something positive/negative. First negate 'what not me' and what's remaining is "I AM". :smile:

HITESH SHAH 30-07-2021 07:47 PM

what not me
 
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Originally Posted by Viswa
Yes. Those slokas formed when he left his mother and seek 'sanyasa'.
He himself not represented to others in this way. But a 'guru' to test him - asked him "who he is?" - so Nirvana Shathakam born.
It is not something positive/negative. First negate 'what not me' and what's remaining is "I AM". :smile:

Shankaracharya was great and so are his writings . So u too need to say who u are instead of just negating.

Viswa 30-07-2021 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HITESH SHAH
Shankaracharya was great and so are his writings . So u too need to say who u are instead of just negating.


Oops. Sorry. I can only say when I 'realize' who am I.

But, I just feel the immense energy flowing and increasing. Don't know whether it will decrease/stop/increase in the coming days.

I will surely say, when time comes.

But, when I have a meeting with @still_waters, I just felt something I missed.

I was identifying the 'illusion and Brahman' at that moment which was 'movement', so I feel blessed to have conversation with him, so that I came to "STOP" identifying who am I and what I see. I don't want to give a name for it, as of now, and compare past/movement with another past/movement.


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