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Maybe beating ones chest is resistance and unfinished business. Frustration,a voice,a need to be heard. That needs to be processed internally,not externally. Just a thought. |
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Changing our thought process, To more of understanding from the facts~they know not,what they do, We can then step back and have compassion and love for those that act out asleep.: ) |
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Hi Ant, So when the time was right for you to say no, it's no good someone telling you to zip it is there . This is what I have been saying with confidence, that silence is golden for only so long, enough is enough when the time is right for someone to find their voice . Standing up for yourself in truth is just as a worthy expression as staying silent is in certain circumstances . knowing when to stay silent and when not too comes from within for many a reason .. Some just can't find the strength to say boo to a goose let alone fight for equality or justice . Some people think kindness and being generous is a weakness so they take advantage like you say, this also happened to me throughout my life, but it is a strength . As we both know and many know that overtime one can become weakened by the amount other's take from you . At a point one draws the line, like discussed, the line drawn for each individual will be different . Quote:
This is the hypocrisy, the irony the contradiction that I don't mind pointing out . I don't care how it looks from members, I simply will point out these things to people who want to put me or other's down, simply because I question what they say . I am sure like you have witnessed, other's have too, and perhaps it's not in their interest to say anything about these peeps, incase they rock the boat or become targeted themselves . Who knows, it doesn't matter as long a there is one person to stand up for what is right and just that's all that matters . Like said to the panda, there is no need for it . It doesn't reflect where they pretend their coming from. Quote:
I get that sometimes, sometimes I will watch a film I haven't seen before (a new release) and I am thinking Jesus, I have been here watching this before, or having these same conversations with people before .. x daz x |
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I had a lifetime when I was a viking and I was killed by my own kind for standing up for being kind and not being like mad savages .. (roughly translated) . It can therefore reflect unfinished business from this present lifetime or from another ... Some just like the sound of their own voice and want to be heard, but for some to stand up for themselves is a huge accomplishment and part of their journey . This is why I mentioned the slaves and women's rights . If everyone turned the other cheek and remained silent in sufferings then who knows what kind of a world we would be living in now . Nearly everywhere you look there are people protesting for one thing or another . This again can reflect someone's kind nature, where folks can take advantage and walk all over you . It is what it is, some I dare say are mean't to be suppressed, imprisoned, manipulated, deceived etc etc .. so without these experiences there would never be the need for one to stand up and be counted . Who knows by what any individual has said, can create ripples across the pond and influence other's . Sometimes being silent can have the same effect, sometimes being silent can encourage other's to find their voice . It's all interconnected in this way . This is why no one has any right to tell other's to stand up or sit down . x daz x |
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From my perspective the example I gave is no different to what has been going on here on the forums . Direct physical abuse or indirect passive aggression matters not what the differences are . It's still abuse . It's still unkind, it's still unjust . How does anyone know where the other is at on their journey . Perhaps someone who has endured suffering for a decade to have one person give you a sly remark will be enough for them to explode . I don't have that energy about me at all, I simply point out what I see at times when peeps are being unkind, deflective, abusive etc etc . Some peeps have the wrong impression here of me thinking I am at my wits end going crazy for saying what I am . I can assure you and everyone reading this that I am not losing any sleep over this, I can quite calmly point something out about what is hypocritical or contradictory or when someone is lying to me . Peeps have to be attentive to what has been actually said and declared . I stay true to the foundation of what has been implied, suggested said as facts . Poop hits the fan when peeps can't answer, won't answer or when they do they try and make you out to be the fool or the one lacking spirituality . These are deflective and nasty little comments that reveal the true nature of the peep . All you have to do is watch out for it . The same pattern of behaviour manifests time and time again, from everyone who expresses themselves from a place within themselves that doesn't reflect truthfulness, honesty and heartfelt kindness . These traits that shouldn't be lacking from so called self realised individuals . x daz x |
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[quote=7luminaries]Hey GS. LOL :D...well, thus far, yes.[/quote Hey there 7L. if that's the case, can I have your address please? They most likely didn't know it.
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I'm listening to this series of lectures on Adi Shankaracharya's Atma Bodha and this speaks to what I'm trying to get across. In essence Consciousness is both self-revealing and self-evident. The issue is one of superimposition. That is Ahamkara saying "I am conscious" is but a thought illumined by Consciousness and mistaken as Consciousness Itself.
If one can manage to shift identification from Ahamkara to Consciousness it's obvious (self-revealing and self-evident) and that's where I'm coming from. It's not even a major shift. In fact it's a very subtle shift but the ramifications are beyond significant. https://youtu.be/ucKQfi_TjqY?t=1929 |
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I think the funny thing here is G man is that similar to consciousness with folks not knowing exactly what it is, the same goes in a way for the unconscious self / mind . For one requires to be conscious of something to know what that something is . So in a way the unconscious mind is a bit of an enigma isn't it . We can speak about it, we can associate stuff to it, but to actually realise what it is, one would have to be conscious of it and by it's nature one cannot :D How I see it or refer to it from a basic standing point is that most don't remember what they did last night when the spirit left the body . So we have a situation where there is conscious awareness of that, but one fails to remember any of it . So where is that experience had held? Where are the memories of that held? This is just one small aspect of the unconscious self / mind where there is a knowing and a unknowing at the same time . So there is a conscious and an unconscious aspect at play here .. x daz x |
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The unconscious contains subjective information or writing and is based on personal opinions, interpretations, points of view, emotions and judgment and is based on our past experiences. The right here and right now is objective information or analysis is fact-based, measurable and observable. This is why I put great emphasis on the right here and right now in my posts! We will be conscious/aware of our unconscious or unconscious conditioning/programming, when we are conscious/aware of our behavior, thoughts, habits etc etc and work through/overcome all of them by accepting that you have them, but do not mentally interact with them, by not giving them any mental energy-not thinking so much and analyzing everything so much (having a silent or still mind), doing this will naturally focus all of our mental energy in the right here and right now to be more positive, constructive etc. Edit: Just to note: What I said above about us storing junk in our unconscious is the way things are now. Our unconscious will not be full of junk, if we learned to live in the right here and right now! The ego/mental aspect of self, intellect,unconscious and body is not the bad guy. The bad guy is the subjective information (see above), which is in opposition to the right here and right now, that we store inside our ego/mental aspect of self, intellect, unconscious and body. |
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