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https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/504...comment=915247 https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/504...comment=915224 Seems that all this highlights the point of this thread https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/504...lease/?page=12 |
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"Truth transcends, time, space, and causation. Note, that time and space create divisions. If something transcends time and space it has no limits or boundaries. Therefore, this Truth/Reality must be infinite, eternal, and indivisible, hence, all-pervading. Further, there cannot be two infinites." http://www.advaita-academy.org/blogs/brahman-satya/ |
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non-duality sheerly from material gains perspective is really a Maya trap . Yes many modern Guru's may have gained materially even with their fake non-duality . But that is everywhere . We get inferior / fake goods and services everywhere . Not a single field is exception . Just that others have succeeded with material gains with inferior concepts and practices , it should not be that its a good career to be in at every place and at every stage of life. Quote:
Now about Non-duality . First about this word itself . Many use the word singularity / oneness / uniqueness for this to define non-duality . While that is absolutely correct at the experience of non-duality at individual level , that is still incompplete and insufficient to describe the experience the word non-duality is conveying about reality at collective level. With non-duality, spiritual masters try to convey that world is full of duality and that too with multiple layers & shades of duality . Person must be intelligent enough to understand the duality in the way those are manifested (ie the way others also understand and describe) and deal with those duality honestly/modestly / intelligently and yet feel the non-dual in all such dealings in a manner God would be happy .So just like any great thing these requires tremendous analyses / knowledge / insight of duality and synthesis of all these to experience non-duality / to create something wonderful- all that in fraction of moment realtime 24X7 . Like feats of any great player/artist /professionals (which looks amazing feat for outsiders impossible for us normal people ), it requires lot of dedication and practice. And God has given certain kind of non-duality naturally to everybody further to develop on it .So it is inherent and seekers just dont have any choice in it . e.g. When we sleep we are integrated with God's kingdom of non-duality and have wonderful bliss/rest,our all good memories vested in with universe at night are restored back to us at morning our bad/painful memories are restored with little less pain or purged . So when we wake our entire beautiful duality is restored back to us .Similarly a mothers in general are very much non-dual with their kids especially upto the age of puberty or lovers become non-dual in their intense love . So this basic kind of non-duality (switch-on switch off) is available to all without exception .Now the expectation is that real people build upon this basic gift to do this realtime 24X7 with with accurate understanding duality / layers & shades of duality . Just to illustrate the processes and possibilities of non-duality , I would take the help of compute science. In electronics everything can be expressed with on and off status when electricity passes in them . Brilliant scientists represented it to represent 0 and 1 (binary arithmatic which can be equated with dual/non-dual states) . They then went on to use the same binary arithmatic to human understandable decimal mathematics .Scientist then devised standards which use the same binary to represent latin numbers . East asian nations further built upon these to represent double-byte/multi-byte to represent their own characters . The same numbering exploded with netowrking protocols (inherently using binary arithmatic) . They further built social media , enterprise apps , electronic commerce , mobile apps upon the same and united it all . The result is extremely wonderful experience for all in multiple spheres so much so that the we feel at home even with draconian lockdowns & demanding Work From Home ( of course sad loss of people is definitely painful) Now all people need not know all these longer chain of rules . But definitely there must be lot of people knowing these all to sustain our wonderful experience on an ongoing basis for us and posterity . Lots of people from many races / companies / countries have contributed in this in last 50 years . The same non-duality too has trmendous promise if it has been acted upon honestly by many people year on year widely . If recent example of this is to be found is that of Chienese people experiencing oneness with Chinese nation widely over last 50 years (Not to comment anything on current controversies) . From nowhere to pole position is a sheer story of tremendous hardwork & intelligence in duality combined with non-duality with their nation state in everything they do . And same is the story of other nations with their varying degrees of non-duality and varying degrees of versatile progress . Now coming to orignial non-dual advocates . They have been able to impact the humanity in a postive manner with their non-duality and brought the general well being with their non-duality . That is true non-duality . All else including mine is baby steps to learning ropes on non-duality . PS - I reallize this thread is very old dating 2017 after i drafted this reply . Nothing in response to imply any superioriy / inferiority given that we have already agreed to disagree.I believe if any friction/differences /disagreement produce the fun and joy (like child mother feeling when breast feeding friction, like lovers experiencing bliss through friction in their union ) it's very much worth it .So in that anticipation to ameliorate our learning /experience & joy ,I still post the same. |
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