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Originally Posted by BigJohn

Interesting!

The book begins right out talking about Buddha Maitreya. Unfortunately what is provided, ends before the chapter titled 'A Brief History of Maitreya Buddha' begins. I for one, really like Maitreya. I just do not know why others are not interested in him.

Can you see if Part 2 can be referenced?

Yes, I looked into the pdf as well and expected it to have the Maitreya bit .. but no :icon_frown:

Try this & click on the picture to open the book up:
https://books.google.com.au/books/ab...AJ&redir_esc=y

But be warned it is Tibetan :wink:

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Originally Posted by sentient

Try this Link Sentient, you can search for different Chapters....

https://www.lamayeshe.com/article/ch...oming-maitreya

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Originally Posted by sky123

Try this Link Sentient, you can search for different Chapters....

https://www.lamayeshe.com/article/ch...oming-maitreya

Thank you kindly Sky.

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Originally Posted by AbodhiSky

the sutta's were not written by buddha. it's kinda sad in a way that the authors did not write down their names. from the little i know of the history of buddhism, buddha himself seemed to be a strict monk type later in life. in fact, the history of the schools of buddhism support this. the whole movement of early tantric buddhism was an open rejection of "buddha's rule based buddhism." the strict rules of conduct. no sex or drinking, no possessions etc. that's why those early tantric buddhist's built sex into their beliefs and practices and openly used intoxicants and openly rejected buddha's view of strict monasticism. just google early tantra buddhism and read the history. they were against those who followed buddha's monastic rules and basically thought, we know a better way to enlightenment. this was very early after buddha passed, so even here is evidence people were turning buddha's "teachings" into whatever they wanted.

i don't think many would actually be into buddha's "teachings" now days as he was very strict about what one did all day if one looks up the rules he laid down for his followers or monastics. i think he even told them what they could think and talk about during the day. but then like those early tantric buddhist's, people make buddhism and "buddha's teachings" into whatever suits them. western zen for example. people may be in a romantic relationships, drink wine with dinner, not practice having no possessions as buddha's early monastics did under his rules, do mindfulness and try to be non-attached to thoughts, and think, "oh i follow buddha's teachings." this is not actually a lifestyle buddha endorsed.

It does indeed seem true that there are many who deviated from the original teachings of the Buddha for a wide range of reasons. Nonetheless, the essential message seems to survived the test of time .... and one can validate what has survived through practice.

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Originally Posted by sentient

Fancy that.

It seems to me, meditation practice naturally leads to the experience of the Jhanas, and I found it interesting to listen to the descriptions of them and compare notes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCLT64SLYZk&t=5s

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I completely agree that "meditation practice naturally leads to the experience of the jhanas (absorptions)". While the first jhana includes thought inception and discursive thought, it is my understanding and my experience as well that the subsequent jhanas are thought free .... until the next thought inception triggers more realizations on different aspects of the Reality ......

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Originally Posted by BigJohn

How does this justify or rationalize Tantric Buddhism as the poster mentioned?

Tantric Buddhism is not well understood and is presented inaccurately more often than not.

The Buddha reportedly said that sexual craving is probably the most formidable of the Five Hindrances to Enlightenment that are mentioned in the Satipattana Sutra.

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Originally Posted by sky123

Experiences are personal :smile:

Yes I very very seldom watch Videos, I'm a ' BookWorm ' :D

Some experiences are transpersonal. :tongue: :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by AbodhiSky

this is the link. very informative!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vajrayana

I went to some Tibetan Buddhist meetings in NYC where tantric practices were discussed and it is quite different in the depths from what is presented in that article.

The description of Tantric in that article would not appeal to me at all personally. On the one hand, I can see how it could be used to transcend but the danger is that it could also be a way of justifying indulgence. I won't judge, but I personally would not be drawn to such gatherings. ("Since the practice of Tantra focuses on the transformation of poisons into wisdom, the yogic circles came together in tantric feasts, often in sacred sites (pitha) and places (ksetra) which included dancing, singing, consort practices and the ingestion of taboo substances like alcohol, urine, and meat.")

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Originally Posted by sentient

Universal love : the yoga method of Buddha Maitreya by Lama Yeshe:
https://www.ceekr.com/article/e-book...sal-love/11123

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I just looked at the PDF whose link you provided and tried to read the section on Tantra but ,for some reason, the view stopped at page 41. However, the last sentence was interesting.

"If you look at the psychology of the Mahayana you’ll see that the entire practice—motivation, action, dedication—is geared toward the destruction of attachment. You have to understand the psychology of your practice in order to know the purpose of what you’re doing."

One can indeed destroy attachment through indulgence, but that path is obviously fraught with danger as the indulgent practice could easily lead to addiction as well as one justifies the indulgence repeatedly.

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Originally Posted by Still_Waters

Some experiences are transpersonal. :tongue: :biggrin:

The problem with them there experiences is I'm not sure if it's me having the experience or the Man down the street :D