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Originally Posted by sky123

Experiences are personal :smile:

Yes I very very seldom watch Videos, I'm a ' BookWorm ' :D

Those are just psychological differences - one respects ….. “mindful regard” and all that ... and they are not disagreements.

(Not saying that disagreements wouldn’t happen – as they occasionally do.)

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Originally Posted by AbodhiSky

the sutta's were not written by buddha. it's kinda sad in a way that the authors did not write down their names. from the little i know of the history of buddhism, buddha himself seemed to be a strict monk type later in life. in fact, the history of the schools of buddhism support this. the whole movement of early tantric buddhism was an open rejection of "buddha's rule based buddhism." the strict rules of conduct. no sex or drinking, no possessions etc. that's why those early tantric buddhist's built sex into their beliefs and practices and openly used intoxicants and openly rejected buddha's view of strict monasticism. just google early tantra buddhism and read the history. they were against those who followed buddha's monastic rules and basically thought, we know a better way to enlightenment. this was very early after buddha passed, so even here is evidence people were turning buddha's "teachings" into whatever they wanted.

i don't think many would actually be into buddha's "teachings" now days as he was very strict about what one did all day if one looks up the rules he laid down for his followers or monastics. i think he even told them what they could think and talk about during the day. but then like those early tantric buddhist's, people make buddhism and "buddha's teachings" into whatever suits them. western zen for example. people may be in a romantic relationships, drink wine with dinner, not practice having no possessions as buddha's early monastics did under his rules, do mindfulness and try to be non-attached to thoughts, and think, "oh i follow buddha's teachings." this is not actually a lifestyle buddha endorsed.

There are actually many who follow the Buddha's teachings today, and many which follow the ten precepts http://www.buddhanet.info/wbd/ (Theravadin lay people on observances, and monastics every day), as sky123 pointed out.

The different schools of Buddhism all follow the core teachings of Buddhism - which is the Four Noble Truths.

People who obsess about the outer form demonstrate an inability to grasp the fundamentals. It is well known that Ananda and others kept records of the Buddha's teachings and they have the advantage of being wholly consistent and potent.

So when you were a Benedectine monk, you could have sex in the monastery, talk badly about others, and play loud rock music could you?

Interesting. It seems your disdain of Buddhist schools comes from some unresolved inner traumas, and not Buddha's teachings themselves. It may be worthwhile investigating those instead.

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Originally Posted by pixiedust

It seems your disdain of Buddhist schools comes from some unresolved inner traumas, and not Buddha's teachings themselves. It may be worthwhile investigating those instead.

.......... or it could be because of something observed.

this is the link. very informative!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vajrayana

AbodhiSky,
I knew one woman who loved Maitreya (Buddha of the Future) and wanted to go to Tibet. She found Tantra to be 'disgusting'.

According to some, it was a monk who went to the Heaven where Maitrya resides and obtained from Maitreya the teachings of Tantra.

I can only imagine her 'delight' if she saw the Tantric images depicted at some of the Buddhist Temples in Tibet.

i think the chan school and of course buddhist monasticism is probably the closest to buddha's post enlightenment lifestyle. i love the chan school. if anyone reads the history of vajrayana, the founders had an open distain for buddhist monasticism. that link discusses it as well.

Scriptures and Texts.

The Buddha's teaching was oral. He taught for 45 years, adapting the teaching to suit the group he was addressing, and there is duplication in the texts.

https://www.thebuddhistsociety.org/p...riptures-texts

A free pdf book …

Universal love : the yoga method of Buddha Maitreya by Lama Yeshe:
https://www.ceekr.com/article/e-book...sal-love/11123

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The above reference mentioned by sky123 also mentions the Mahayana Texts which the reference claims:

The teaching in the Sanskrit Canon was incorporated into the Mahayana teaching. The new Sutras were based on the existing texts but new material was added to incorporate the Mahayana ideas.

This reference clearly states that 'new material' was added to make up these Sutras which in the eyes of some would be a clear distortion of the 'original material'.

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Originally Posted by sentient

Universal love : the yoga method of Buddha Maitreya by Lama Yeshe:
https://www.ceekr.com/article/e-book...sal-love/11123

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Interesting!

The book begins right out talking about Buddha Maitreya. Unfortunately what is provided, ends before the chapter titled 'A Brief History of Maitreya Buddha' begins. I for one, really like Maitreya. I just do not know why others are not interested in him.

Can you see if Part 2 can be referenced?