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ImthatIm 02-02-2021 03:05 PM

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No-no-noooo. Not modern.
The “thumb tack” is supposed to illustrate the “Sky Nail” that keeps the Pole Star stationary.


I forgot there was forged metal on that continent for quite some time.


Do you know where your people went during the ice-age?

ImthatIm 02-02-2021 03:39 PM

A brief message from Terence McKenna 1:44mins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC7aud4b3dQ


Seemed like a reasonable message in this world of today.

sentient 02-02-2021 08:01 PM

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I'm all for you getting a swastika tattoo.I support you 100%.:icon_razz:

Not getting a tattoo, heh.
But moving on … have since discovered interesting and beautiful Navajo weaving patterns and I really love this design:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmK74W55kPE

Now, if Navajos wanted to revive and use that old symbol of theirs, I can’t see why they shouldn’t since it has absolutely nothing to do with Hitler’s: “Stand-in-for-your-superiority-as-the-White-Aryan-Master-Race” … The high aspirations of it and the bitter falls …

(Here one needs the fall-off-your-high-camel video to illustrate):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AN3NGf-iXY

Navajos apparently didn’t even have Chiefs!

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Gimbutas: “Swastika was a symbol of the perpetual motion of life and the universe” (So perhaps that was the original Euro hunter-gatherer definition for it?).

But because ours is an Arctic-Siberian influenced Euro view it is the Polaris – Big Dipper – World Pole – Axis Mundi (and how every aspect and symbol ties into that) Worldview … where stillness and movement come together, time and timelessness etc. etc. etc. which is a real shamanic spiritual awakening experience into nonduality. (The experience one has just before Thunderbird swallows one up, which is the shamanic-death-experience).

And so on.

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sentient 02-02-2021 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ImthatIm
sentient

I forgot there was forged metal on that continent for quite some time.


Yeah. Yakut, Mongol, Uralic etc. shamen used heaps of metal in their regalia:


And then there was this development:


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ImthatIm 02-02-2021 09:41 PM

sentient

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Polaris – Big Dipper – World Pole – Axis Mundi (and how every aspect and symbol ties into that) Worldview … where stillness and movement come together, time and timelessness etc. etc. etc.



Again my worldview below. I love this picture below.
I sit or stand at Axis Mundi.Or I could say I
stand at the center of the Universe.I can see the swastika in it.etc. etc.
Though I would turn 180 degrees since we almost always begin
facing West, where the Thunderbird lives and comes from.
So I guess this is how I understand Non-duality.
Yet it looks like I am alone, I assure you this represent ALL
to me. Even camels. LOL.
So i can see how the swastika represent everything.


https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...HwHLQ&usqp=CAU


I probably should add that the top word in the pic. is:
Wakan Tanka = Great Mystery Spirit that is in ALL.(There is ONE)

Tunkashila = Grandfather Spirits of the up direction or sky and they wear a huge Blue Robe.(We say there are 101 of these High Helpers)
101 High Helpers of Wakan Tanka in each direction W,N,E,S,.


Then Unci Maka- Grandmother the Earth below also 101 High Helper Spirits.
606 total High Helpers Spirits.

sentient 03-02-2021 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ImthatIm
Again my worldview below. I love this picture below.
I sit or stand at Axis Mundi.Or I could say I
stand at the center of the Universe.I can see the swastika in it.etc. etc.
Though I would turn 180 degrees since we almost always begin
facing West, where the Thunderbird lives and comes from.
So I guess this is how I understand Non-duality.
Yet it looks like I am alone, I assure you this represent ALL
to me. Even camels. LOL.
So i can see how the swastika represent everything.


https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...HwHLQ&usqp=CAU


I probably should add that the top word in the pic. is:
Wakan Tanka = Great Mystery Spirit that is in ALL.(There is ONE)

Tunkashila = Grandfather Spirits of the up direction or sky and they wear a huge Blue Robe.(We say there are 101 of these High Helpers)
101 High Helpers of Wakan Tanka in each direction W,N,E,S,.


Then Unci Maka- Grandmother the Earth below also 101 High Helper Spirits.
606 total High Helpers Spirits.

That is truly lovely ImthatIm.
And your Pipe practices.
“Sound as Bell” practices imo. Very important to keep alive.

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These I trust, are old Baltic hunter-gatherer symbols.
We love them – we keep them, no matter what that clown Hitler high-on-his-camel-of-self-importance did to the symbol. Nothing to do with us.

These are represented in our weavings, clothings etc.
https://shaktashop.fi/wp-content/upl...128_170601.jpg

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sentient 03-02-2021 01:06 AM

Is that a drum or is that a drum!
If these drums do not summon spirits, it will be a blooming miracle:
https://www.researchgate.net/profile...-Findeisen.ppm


The most important part of the drum - as far as the Shaman is concerned is on the inside:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cd/6b...10d11d2d0e.jpg

This. Was carved into a stone by our Siberian Ancestors to always remember our Reality Orientation:



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ImthatIm 03-02-2021 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sentient
That is truly lovely ImthatIm.
And your Pipe practices.
“Sound as Bell” practices imo. Very important to keep alive.

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These I trust, are old Baltic hunter-gatherer symbols.
We love them – we keep them, no matter what that clown Hitler high-on-his-camel-of-self-importance did to the symbol. Nothing to do with us.

These are represented in our weavings, clothings etc.
https://shaktashop.fi/wp-content/upl...128_170601.jpg

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I love designs and symbols.this is suposedly how my Chinese clan is written.
It's got the 4 directions on a pole.LOL.

I was kinda let down when I traced me Irish clan it was probably Germanic.But that's just that negative charge or connotation again from Adolf.
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Who knows what is real though, history can be a my-story/mystery.LOL


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When those DNA peoples track and find the lost 10 tribes of Israel I will
consider slapping down some frog skins. ($).
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I think I went off track with this post. Must have been the camels. LOL.

sentient 03-02-2021 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ImthatIm
sentient

Do you know where your people went during the ice-age?

Ok.
They did not go anywhere.
As far as my two grandmothers Mt DNA-lines are concerned, they weathered the Ice Age in Solutrean and Proto-Solutrean refugia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_G...aximum_refugia

As the Ice receded – they allegedly moved into and lived in Doggerland.

Later on, they moved – via Baltics to North.

My “white” – bloody Viking grandfather – the I1 (I-M253), was also a ‘Native Euro son.’
But I suppose they fell into the wrong crowd and became Vikings in Gotland.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Bronze_Age.png

My other grandfather – the North Eurasian N … I don’t know – they were the Mammoth hunters of the Mammoth Steppe, where there was no ice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplog..._N_(ADN-Y).PNG

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sentient 03-02-2021 03:01 AM

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I was kinda let down when I traced me Irish clan it was probably Germanic.But that's just that negative charge or connotation again from Adolf.


Well – don’t be disheartened. REALLY.

ALL Europeans have the hunter-gatherer genes as well as the Near Eastern agriculturalist genes and the Indo-European invader genes …it just depends on what proportion.

And besides - Which wolf do you feed?

I am the grey area here. I am more of the Eastern Hunter-Gatherer and also because we have Siberian - which is not European, they left us out of the map.
Hope the map shows:
https://cache.eupedia.com/images/con..._admixture.png

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