Saami People of Norway, Finland and Sweden and Joiking
 

Hello, I am starting this topic as I have felt really drawn to the Saami Culture. I recently viewed a youtube video from Graham Nicholls (an OOB instructor from the UK) and he mentioned during the course of one of his OOBs the appearance of a Saami man.

For some reason, this very small remark on his part of this presentation prompted me to do some research on the Saami people. I was amazed at their rich history and culture. I found that they are shamanistic, and much to my surprise, seemed very aware of soul travel from this world and to other realms. I have been attempting Astral Projecting for awhile and Lucid Dreaming so their information was intriguing.

It amazed me that this very ancient culture had some of the same exact truths I have heard from NDErs, End of life encounters, after death communications and other OOB literature. Which made me realize in a sense, we (in this current awakening) appear to be going back to some very ancient spiritual teachings rather than finding new teachings... that they were somehow lost to most of us in the Western hemisphere. Perhaps I am drawn to them, because my grandfather's family is from Norway. I remember seeing some of the crafts and knitted wear the relatives from Norway sent over which had some of the same symbols / artwork on them. My great grandmother was also to said to be able to see spirits of people gone over, along with some of my other family members which have certain abilities as well. I understand, from that cultural viewpoint, it would not have been unusual to have those gifts.

One of the most beautiful things I found was the Saami's use of a Joik, which is their traditional music, which is to be sung not with words, but rather, "A Joik is not merely a description; it attempts to capture its subject in its entirety: it's like a holographic, multi-dimensional living image, not just a flat photograph or simple visual memory. It is not about something, it is that something. It does not begin and it does not end. A Joik does not need to have words — its narrative is in its power, it can tell a life story in song."

I have found a Joik that really spoke to my heart, at first I only heard the singer. Afterwards I found out it was dedicated to his young friend who had passed. here it is by Jon Henrik (hope it is okay to post this video).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCL9FiAuezk

I have seen the programme you speak of before ,as for the link it is music without words, but listen to the music words arent needed in it,you can tell it comes from the heart

Namaste

You are quite right there shoresh ........

..... except - Jon Henrik is Native Colombian by birth, adopted by a Saami family from Sweden and was thus brought up as Saami & going strong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9VLFog6mbY

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I think the same is found in all (?) shamanic cultures throughout Siberia as well.
It is not about concepts or mimicry, but rather embodiment of the elemental and animal spirit helpers in Shamanic séances.

Thanks for sharing Daniel's Song, I hadn't heard it got a long time. It is all love...

I am Norwegian. I won't say I know the lapp culture well but I know some of it. I consider it a wonder that they weren't stamped out in the 19th and 20th century when the Scandinavian governments put the crowbar into them. Much has survived and the joik is still sung, as it should. There are still drummers and shamans too.

A memory from the 1970s we are sharing if you are Norwegian:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lnFp6_zQsQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPqKAuzo0tk

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Did not know who Graham Nicholls is, so looking into it brought me to this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bxC...GrahamNicholls

Looks like what he calls as OBE, I’d call falling into a trance or entering “shamanic Journeying”.
His experience in the video sounded similar to the one I had - years ago, when in a meditative state I suddenly fell into a spontaneous trance in which I was swallowed by a giant wave.
That was the eve of the 2004 tsunami which hit Thailand.
After that, for a few days staying in a light trance - in which you are partly here, partly there (in another dimension) painting ‘spirit canoes’ to guide the souls “home” as they seemed totally confused and disoriented about what had happened.
Only later did I learn that my cousin’s husband and their son had died in that event.

So yes, his experience does sound genuine and those are the kind of stories the old folk used to tell each other all-the-time.

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But why would he see a Saami man in his ‘OBE visions’, if he is not related?
Perhaps it was a prompting from his own guidance to look further into experiences relating to the shamanic multidimensional reality.

Oh. I see …
shoresh, was this the ‘OBE’ of Graham Nicholls where the Saami man appeared?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZNl...l=ShadowCamera

From 44:55 to 46:02

Right, yes, well … You do become aware of an energy-field of a person who comes into your (auric) presence. If it comes out-of-the-blue, you just sense it for a while to get the “energy-signature” - in order to determine who it is and its intent towards you and this is what I assume the Saami man did.
And Graham was probably subconsciously ‘magnetized’ to his presence, since the Saami bloke could consciously be aware of his ‘OOB’ i.e. energy-field presence.

That’s my take on it anyways, from my own experience in this …

These are all valid experiences ….

The pyramid-type of structure behind the Saami would have been "Kota" or "Lavvu" in Saami, meaning a tipi-like-tent.

It would help their reputation if they weren’t so anti-wolf. (I will always speak out for wolves!). Learn to protect your herd without shooting carnivores dead. Otherwise, fine.

There are 2 Saami groups, the Forest Saami and the Reindeer-herding Saami (the "Fell Sami") and I do not know if their attitudes towards the wolves were/are different (?)

Practically speaking, perhaps it is best to concentrate the wolf conservation efforts on the forested areas though - where their numbers have been increasing:
https://www.tunturisusi.com/euroopansudet2.png

I grew up in an area, where there were wolves, but unfortunately never irl. had the opportunity to personally connect/interact face to face with a wild wolf.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbby...3%A4ms%C3%A 4

I did get that opportunity though with a wild dingo (pack) when camping in the Central Australian desert country, where I saw some absolutely spectacular places, but my favorite place was this one (dry river bed) gorge, where we also camped the night. (Have I told this story here before?)


Between dream and reality

Early in the night heard some howling in the distance for quite a long time … but since that National Park had two camping sites, I thought that perhaps it was some idiot in that other distant camping spot pretending to be a dingo.
Or maybe it was a real dingo?

Then must have fallen asleep, when this eye, that looked like an Egyptian eye (the Eye of Horus) appeared in my dream. At a closer look, zooming into the eye, I saw that it was an eye of a dingo eyeballing me, and the eye was like wanting to say: “I have seen you!”
Just then heard a soft short howl near my tent (beside my head, where the netted window flap was) …. after which – all around us, quite near and further away … all the dingoes started to howl in chorus – howls that the rocky canyon walls echoed … and echoed … and echoed ….

What an absolutely magnificent moment!!!
I was in total rapture!

Needless to say, couldn’t sleep after that nor could I help but start longing after these dingoes, desiring to travel with them into the night.
Silently in my mind – I howled them back. This special call. Did I make it up or did I just repeat the howl of the dingo near my tent … (?)
And just then - one lone dingo howled back that call – twice!!!
A moment of total magic, when I could not tell whether reality had just become a dream or dream a reality.

In the morning when we left the camp, “saw” a dingo in my mind’s eye standing in the middle of the road – round the bend towards which we were driving … and when we did go round that bend … of course – there she was!

Wolf genetic variation in Scandinavia isn't too great, Northern Sweden/Finland functions as a corridor for wolves to get into the western part of Scandinavia, the area where the Saami also live, AND their tame reindeer population. Swedish government ought to fix this situation. There are many brown bears in western Scandinavia but when it comes to wolves there seems to be an anti-wolf sentiment, with cheering going on for wolf hunting. They don't even have many wolves at all.

Speaking as a Norwegian I hear a lot about the wolf issue frequently, it is one of those piping hot political potatoes. The Lapps here don't speak much on that but they have always been hunting them. The most fervent anti-wolf groups are elsewhere. Ask a sheep farmer about wolves... or probably for the best, don't. We have one million sheep going loose and unherded in nature, about 40 wolves in total, and those 40 wolves have a "Wanted: Dead" poster circulating. The other side are small environmental groups. But both sides have wide support in the farmer's party (now in the government faction) and in the leftist socialist parties. I have a lot to say about it but there is no point, the sides are more entrenched than Somme 1915 and it isn't really a big Saami issue.

Yes, it is very similar here. Maybe 40/50 wolves but people are all over the place preaching anti-wolf propaganda and of course the sheep farmers are at it as well. They think they can have their sheep outside and not give protection (fences, guard dogs).

I think the whole sheep business is a joke!! Most people don't eat mutton nor have clothes made of wool. It's just a cultural thing, the ''landscape with the sheep''. Dogs kill more sheep and bite hundreds of people every year here, wolves don't. But the wolf is the bad guy in the cultural stories.

Besides environmental altruism, if we go back and back in time, bears have been revered totem animals, hence protected. In the eastern side of Fennoscandia, among Skolt Saami and Karelians at least, bears were considered as totemic ancestors.

Even though old stories about shapeshifting into bears or wolves abound, wolf shapeshifters were feared more than death itself.
Amerind ‘Skinwalkers’ come to mind. Is it similar – I don’t know, it just sounds similar.

Don’t know what this Somby guy is doing – is he raising awareness about the taboo subject?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkOW...ndeSomby-Topic

Does he know what he is doing, know the pitfalls of it, or is it all just about being a vocal artist playing with 'concepts'?
https://www.cafeoto.co.uk/events/tig...ts-ande-somby/

Interesting case. Ande Somby, which I have not heard of before now, is a Lapp and a musician and a professor in Law - a rare combination. Best as I can see he is trying to interpret the nature of various animals through the joik. I don't think there is a further message in it.

Hi WhiteWarrior,
Nice to see Norwegian presence here.

Could be, could be, he might just be an environmentally conscious Saami artiste …
Then again, it is a bit like those inkblots and word associations, mention wolf and all the shapeshifting stories from collective subconscious and the ones one has heard come to mind - I guess - if you are a Saami lol.

Years ago, purchased the dvd: “Kautokeino Rebellion”, a film which left me so very depressed I had to watch the movie “Mongol” afterwards. Those wolf totemic Mongols and Asian Turks knew how to kick a**!
Still, we do need that balance, not wanting to become a pathetic shrivelling, whining wimp nor a rabid hound from hell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy3P...el=UfukCanAtik

Ah, best let the man speak for himself:
https://www.abc.net.au/listen/progra...yoiker/9269088

Apparently when he was 17, a wolf entered into his tent asking for his help & that situation must have affected him deeply leaving him feel that the wolf is his “kaima”, - name brother - (he says it “kaimi" or “gaimi”).

Very good – so there was a real personal story behind his wolf joik one can relate to.

I don't know if you meant that literally, but canines have been carriers of rabies throughout history, as are bats. It's where we got the werewolf and vampire stories from. An infected canine is indeed a 'rabid hound from hell'..

Well, back in my mind I was kind of thinking about the old (yin & yang like) totemic moiety balance system, where for example in Mongolia, the wolf marries the deer.
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-mongolians-love-wolves

This is the old Khanty/Mansi image which I had posted before:


How at times you can “see” the person’s totem animal superimposed on them (their etheric double, I suppose) or sense how their ‘energy-fields vibrate’ with a special kind of detectable totemic ‘key’.

But what happens when that moiety balance gets lost …

To actually shapeshift into a bear or a wolf, folklore tells how you need to go to the forest, find a special kind of tree with a specific kind of root to crawl under – whatnot ….

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I am somewhat aware of the Eastern – Viena Karelian and Saami mixed heritage, familiar with that cultural blur, but finding that many of the Norwegian Kautokeino Saami families are distant relatives also is a new discovery and I am somewhat amazed.

Where “our” researches went to the East, to Siberia, to seek old deep ancestry connections to the old ways, looks like the Norwegian cousins went to the West.

Michael Harner – Oh my …

And this inspiration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJBA..._channel=hape3

I am stunned. Stunned and amazed.

Sami Neo-Shamanism in Norway:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPBF...ithH%C3%A4rger

Had to watch that video twice, since at first it sounded like gobbledygook.
What New Age?!
What Neo?!
What reconstruction?!
Blimey! Didn’t know or realize or appreciate just how much had been lost culturally.

Did come across the book “The Way of the Shaman” by Harner. Bought the book, read it and then did something I have never done before nor since – burned it!

Radien - from the website:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radien-attje


This, I dare say is “Core Shamanism”.
We have always had it, so no need to reconstruct it, but perhaps it takes an Elder to properly help one understand the meaning and show how to reconnect to it.

Which brings me to these old rock paintings from Finland ….

The example:
http://www.ismoluukkonen.net/kalliot...omi/sn/sn.html

Why the triangular shaped heads? Does anybody know?
Are those 2 lavvus (or kotas) underneath the figure?
I think I have read a few references about Saami having lived there prior to moving up North.

Ailo Gaup, Michael Harner and Neoshamanism
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10...781137461407_1

Harner: “The Way of the Shaman”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N2z...nkingAllowedTV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGb...hamanicstudies

I can fully relate to Gaup’s (then) need to revive the old ways and had I also at that time come across those speeches of Harner’s – I too would perhaps have been sold to his idea.

And sure, many people can learn “shamanic journeying” if one can relax enough, enter into a theta-brainwave state (perhaps through drumming) & get over the CCF barrier (Conscious Critical Faculty). But learning to journey or even learning to facilitate such events during a weekend workshops, does not make one a “Shaman”.

When the workshop: “Many people, now you too can become a Shaman” (what I now assume were Harner educated facilitators) from FennoScandian/Saami lineage - channelling Siberian “Medicine People Shaman” called the “True Path” came to town - out of curiosity, I did attend:

https://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/s...3&postcount=40

Yeah - no.
That was both good, but not really heh.

P.S.
Even though I am not a fan of Harner’s – that doesn’t mean Gaup’s journeying did not provide valuable and valid information for him.

So now I am really curious and interested in his journeys!
Will try to get the book:

That would be me. However, I do not call myself a shaman, I say I am on a shamanic path, and others I have talked with say the same. I have yet to hear a credible spiritual person actually call himself a shaman.

Good on you WhiteWarrior.
Care to share a memorable journey or two or three?

I mainly attempt to communicate with the spirit world on behalf of others. To do this I use a drum to heighten my mental state at least one notch. It seems to be working, judging by the feedback I get. Journeying to the aether I have done a few times, again to speak with spirit but this time earth bound ones. Also there was the one time I tried mind traveling to the cabin, first saw the building as it was a long time and several rebuildings ago, then saw myself being buried in the fog wearing armor and with a smile on my face. I'm not really much of an experimental journeyer, I'd rather have a purpose to the voyage.

My idea of what a shaman is, really comes from the tribal nomadic cultures. Where the shaman was the local doctor, apothecarist, dream interpreter, story teller, priest, dentist, burial agent, general wise man and just about anything except chieftain. His main function being to offer a service to his community. I cannot be most of those things but I recognize his craft as a honorable one and will take what inspiration I can from what I know of them.

Oh, did find the Gaup website sjamansonen story: “Om å finne veien”:
https://sjamansonen.net/index.php?op...17&It emid=51

That I understood with my little Dansk og Svensk, but to get it all, I did need Google English translation.
So, it was Harner who had approached him …

If I remember correctly, Harner had also approached Anna-Leena Siikala, who wrote “The Rite technique of the Siberian Shaman”, but she was more into travelling around Russia doing academic research, than into “journeying”.

WhiteWarrior

May I ask – where did you first learn about this? What prompted you?

Hm. Good question. I have been on a conscious spiritual path for a little more than a decade. During that time I have met several spiritual people of various branches of faith, including on this forum, who kindly let me ask very many questions and helped me understand concepts and try things. I consider them my teachers. Before that there were little moments and experiences that I didn't see as significant at the time. I recall some time when I was a child, maybe 6 or 7, when I would lie awake in my bed in the darkness constructing houses and ships piece by piece from energy and turning them around to study them. A decade later I could lie in bed and travel in my mind along well known roads stretch by stretch to some destination. I didn't think this was unusual at the time.

I never read much spiritual stuff. Oh, I have a number of books, but back when I read them I didn't think I was ever going to do anything like that myself. There was however one line that has stuck with me. I don't recollect from where. That shamans often found their calling after a drastic, lifechanging event. I certainly had that, just a few years before I started my conscious path, when I lost my health and much else that mattered to me then.

Thank you WhiteWarrior for your replies, always good to know where people are like ‘coming from’.

There certainly are knowledgeable people on this forum one can learn from, but when it comes to actual teachers of the so called “shamanic journeying” on this thread, the original poster’s mentioned Graham Nicholls - to me sounded most straight forward, credible, authentic and honest, plus he doesn’t pretend to be a shaman or any other spiritual teacher.
He seemed to have had a natural talent to start with, which he later honed in on, explored and developed.

But that is not “Core Shamanism” - more like a ‘side door’, which can easily become badly distorted.
The Core to my knowledge is found in the Axis Mundi, … where stillness and movement come together, time and timelessness, oneness and multiplicity etc. etc. etc. which is an awareness shift where real shamanic spiritual visions & awakening experiences into nonduality takes place and also initiation.



It has been said, that all the shamans of the old were initiated by the Eagle. I would say Thunderbird/Eagle since ancestors were “Kokko” worshippers.
The Eagle comes with an ‘invitation’:



But it is not an eagle as such, nor a cloud, but like a ‘force-field’.
If one declines ‘Eagle’s invitation’ – that is not too good.
If one accepts – the Thunderbird swallows one up - which is the ‘shamanic-death-experience’ and then spits one back into the body - ‘rearranged’.
One also gets a gift, like a Power Animal, which is like an energetic function between the Source and manifest reality, which also acts like an ‘extra soul’ component for the shaman.
Since the shaman had already ‘died’ to the local “I am” and awakened to the Source “I AM” – so to speak, there is trust and protection to go into trances.

That is what I’ve learned anyways …

The mythical giant Eagle/Thunderbird is Kokko (but the link doesn't work):

There are Saami birds called “vaaka, vuokko or vuohko and vuoyu”, but I do not know if they mean the same thing or mean something else; - point to some other function (?)

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Edited to add this bit I found:
From
https://www.isars.org/shaman_pdf/Sha...1994_Retro.pdf


So no, the meaning is not the same. And this is more like occult 'sorcery', not shamanic spirituality.

Intriguing. The eagle is my totem animal and has been for a long time. I had a vision once where I was one, also a long time ago now. Flying, hunting. The view from above was amazing, as was the feeling of the wind under my wings and the exhaliriating feeling of hurling downward to catch a prey, and the pride of bringing home fresh meat to my mate. I can still see the barren stony landscape and the ruins on which we had our nest.

That was a lovely vision WhiteWarrior.

But even if you did find the eagle story I narrated intriguing, please don’t take it as a gospel, as ‘invitations from Spirit’ can and do take many forms.

If the eagle is a prominent feature or symbol ‘living’ in your subconscious, the question for you is – how come? Where did it or that connection come from, originate? What do you understand/see a totem animal to be and/or to mean?

Eagle is and has been a sacred animal symbol for a lot of people and in general, I guess, eagles have been many shamans’ animal-spirit-helpers.

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For example ...
If I asked (in general) anybody from my ethnic group (& group thinking) to tell the creation story of the Cosmic/World Egg, they would probably tell “the myth of the world being created from the fragments of an egg laid by a goldeneye (duck) on the knee of Ilmatar, goddess of the air”.

I could never relate to that story, but when relatives gifted me a piece of jewellery:
https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/i...1cdb57fa28.jpg

https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/i...1cdb57fa28.jpg

So, when I then learned that our specific creation story is that of the “Kokko/Eagle/Thunderbird” & not a duck, only then did the creation story make sense bringing those jigsaw puzzle pieces of meanings and associations together for me.

Eagles live in my country, I see them at times at the family's cabin and they are majestic. So does many other birds. Totems and other Native American words and concepts came into my life with 'Silver Arrow', a comic book featuring the wild west as seen from the NA side, and other wild west books like Tex Willer. Hey, I was six, I read what was bought for me and this was many decades before anime, DC and Marvel overflowed the shelves.

Comics aside, my country has had a number of very good wilderness writers that told stories as the animals experienced them. Those were the first books available to me after comic books. And I was an avid reader of Jack London too.

Incidentally, and probably as a result of this thread, I dreamed of an eagle last night. I was walking through a forested area, passed by a derelict hut and heard an unexpected sound from the second floor. There I found an eagle, it was tangled into a discarded net. I freed it but it didn't fly away.

By the way, your links dont work. "Direct image access denied, please go to worthpoint.com to view images."

When it comes to the word “totem” – it is just that our rather loose and broad Western use of the term leaves me wondering what it is we are actually talking about.
Do we really think we are speaking Amerind lingo there and seeing reality from their perspective?

Realistically and in a narrow sense of the word – where in the world are traditional totemic kinship systems still practiced? Australia yes, in the remote communities, where it still is a crime to marry into the wrong skin-group (totem), where custodians still perform rites and rituals to ensure the survival of their totemic kin (animals). And if ‘you’ are an outsider coming in, a skin-group totem will be assigned to you so that you can become a functioning part of that kinship system/community.

But for the rest of us and now talking about Fennoscandia here and the Saami, we need to go back and back and back to the old hunting culture – its worldview, its myths, its rituals and associations, as not to appropriate another culture or reconstruct in a new age way, but rather remember it.

In Finland we are said to have had 2 major hunting clans, the bear and the moose with totemic associations, plus smaller; - other animal clans. It was the hunter’s responsibility to do the proper rites and rituals sending their souls back up to the heavens to ensure their consequent return.
(The Ob-Ugrian picture I posted earlier has the bear-skull-tree in it, used for this purpose).

Among the Skolt Saami, we also have the descendants of the bear. Were/are they also descendants of the swan, not sure.
The rest of the Saami ….?

Now this ‘OBE shamanic journeying’ does provide an avenue to explore what is still there of the old – left in the collective subconscious about it. But with these OBE-journeys, one always needs to check if there is an answering image in real reality matching that which one had witnessed, otherwise the whole thing just turns into some weird new age fantasy.

But WhiteWarrior, I do not want to discourage you here. Your dream was really interesting and your eagle-connection worth for you to explore further what it is by asking the Universe or Spirit to show you: What is it?

P.S. And the link to the piece of jewelry, which was just relatives way of saying: “Out in the world, remember where you came from, who you are”.
https://www.rubylane.com/item/191370...ua-Bronze-Bird

Good info about the Saami @ the Saami blog:
https://saamiblog.blogspot.com/2007/

Something that caught my eye:
“Prehistoric Genetic Link of the Amazigh and Saami”
Well, that was the old mitochondrial DNA, Euro hunter-gatherer connection U5 b1 b1 - whatnot …
Been there - done that, and as much I seriously do love Tinariwen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vACZ...nnel=Tinariwen

… the reality is. Compared to Amazigh vs. Tlingit, Skolt Saami comes as 86% Tlingit & 14% Amazigh (I got 6% less Tlingit.)

I do enjoy these interviews with “Jungle Svonni”.

Spending 6 years in the Amazon:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Zv6Gk774rTM

Jungle Svonni (Sami Shaman) Full Interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soOh...eExpedition s

Cannot blame him for moving to Peru to learn from the shamans there, but I am still surprised at the loss of the culture in Sweden and Norway.

I never looked for any Shamans nor spiritual teachers abroad, but due to circumstances, it just so happened that when I met the first Aboriginal Elder – within the first minutes – we *shifted* into “One Spirit” (as they described it) – “a silent oneness” (nondual) communication, something which I had learned from gran since early childhood, so I felt as if we had known each other ‘since eternity’ & that got me hooked to become involved for over 20 years.

“Looking for Elders” and expecting or feeling entitled to receive teachings can actually end up the (new age) seeker becoming the butt of a practical joke or much worse.

Here is a section from your pdf link from post #32...Copied from page 125 of your pdf under the chapter title of "The Shamanic Séance in the Historia Norwegiae"...
You probably already seen it but I figured it won't hurt to bring it to your attention if it can help in your investigation...

(a) Saiva leddie, ‘supernatural bird’, apart from being sent to the saiva
olmai, also showed the shaman his way during the trance journey; the
shaman also had a hideous bird called vurnes lodde or vuokko which
would be sent against rival shamans: it is probably identical with the
saiva leddie;

...Peace...

With a one-track mind, getting so caught up in about the question how the Western Saami are doing, I am afraid I’m missing noticing stuff.
You are always so damn good and wise at spotting and pointing things out!
:hug3:

No two shamans were/are alike, let alone counting regional differences of beliefs and practices.

“a hideous bird called vurnes lodde or vuokko which would be sent against rival shamans”.
From Kalevala, here I guess, we have got vurnes lodde or vuokko in action (?)
"The Defense of the Sampo" painting:
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/vi...20170620191350

The sender of that bird was a sorcerer but. There is a difference. And in stories about it, that bird can come in many forms.
I would differentiate between shaman’s “Saiva leddie” and sorcerer’s “vurnes lodde” though ….

And talking about the different kind of people and their abilities, which were detected within the “shamanic world”:

Many Viena Karelian ancestors were “back bag traders” to Finland and to Saami-land:
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-EyO2YpMgk...cannen0004.jpg

… and many of them were also Rune singers. I assume that piece of Rune poem was a description of a Saami-land visit he had done. Had to laugh at the “Doorway jammed with sorcerers” ... yeah, seen one, once, who also stayed by the doorway, eyeballing the situation inside the house, but not coming or joining in … a weird vibe fellow he was. :icon_cyclops_ani: