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shoresh 19-08-2016 11:11 PM

Saami People of Norway, Finland and Sweden and Joiking
 
Hello, I am starting this topic as I have felt really drawn to the Saami Culture. I recently viewed a youtube video from Graham Nicholls (an OOB instructor from the UK) and he mentioned during the course of one of his OOBs the appearance of a Saami man.

For some reason, this very small remark on his part of this presentation prompted me to do some research on the Saami people. I was amazed at their rich history and culture. I found that they are shamanistic, and much to my surprise, seemed very aware of soul travel from this world and to other realms. I have been attempting Astral Projecting for awhile and Lucid Dreaming so their information was intriguing.

It amazed me that this very ancient culture had some of the same exact truths I have heard from NDErs, End of life encounters, after death communications and other OOB literature. Which made me realize in a sense, we (in this current awakening) appear to be going back to some very ancient spiritual teachings rather than finding new teachings... that they were somehow lost to most of us in the Western hemisphere. Perhaps I am drawn to them, because my grandfather's family is from Norway. I remember seeing some of the crafts and knitted wear the relatives from Norway sent over which had some of the same symbols / artwork on them. My great grandmother was also to said to be able to see spirits of people gone over, along with some of my other family members which have certain abilities as well. I understand, from that cultural viewpoint, it would not have been unusual to have those gifts.

One of the most beautiful things I found was the Saami's use of a Joik, which is their traditional music, which is to be sung not with words, but rather, "A Joik is not merely a description; it attempts to capture its subject in its entirety: it's like a holographic, multi-dimensional living image, not just a flat photograph or simple visual memory. It is not about something, it is that something. It does not begin and it does not end. A Joik does not need to have words — its narrative is in its power, it can tell a life story in song."

I have found a Joik that really spoke to my heart, at first I only heard the singer. Afterwards I found out it was dedicated to his young friend who had passed. here it is by Jon Henrik (hope it is okay to post this video).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCL9FiAuezk

Native spirit 20-08-2016 09:13 PM

I have seen the programme you speak of before ,as for the link it is music without words, but listen to the music words arent needed in it,you can tell it comes from the heart

Namaste

sentient 22-01-2018 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by shoresh
End of life encounters, after death communications and other OOB literature. Which made me realize in a sense, we (in this current awakening) appear to be going back to some very ancient spiritual teachings rather than finding new teachings... that they were somehow lost to most of us in the Western hemisphere. Perhaps I am drawn to them, because my grandfather's family is from Norway. I remember seeing some of the crafts and knitted wear the relatives from Norway sent over which had some of the same symbols / artwork on them. My great grandmother was also to said to be able to see spirits of people gone over, along with some of my other family members which have certain abilities as well. I understand, from that cultural viewpoint, it would not have been unusual to have those gifts.

You are quite right there shoresh ........
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One of the most beautiful things I found was the Saami's use of a Joik
I have found a Joik that really spoke to my heart, at first I only heard the singer. Afterwards I found out it was dedicated to his young friend who had passed. here it is by Jon Henrik.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCL9FiAuezk

..... except - Jon Henrik is Native Colombian by birth, adopted by a Saami family from Sweden and was thus brought up as Saami & going strong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9VLFog6mbY

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sentient 15-03-2018 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by shoresh
One of the most beautiful things I found was the Saami's use of a Joik, which is their traditional music, which is to be sung not with words, but rather, "A Joik is not merely a description; it attempts to capture its subject in its entirety: it's like a holographic, multi-dimensional living image, not just a flat photograph or simple visual memory. It is not about something, it is that something. It does not begin and it does not end. A Joik does not need to have words — its narrative is in its power, it can tell a life story in song."

I think the same is found in all (?) shamanic cultures throughout Siberia as well.
It is not about concepts or mimicry, but rather embodiment of the elemental and animal spirit helpers in Shamanic sťances.

Realm Ki 19-01-2019 08:33 AM

Thanks for sharing Daniel's Song, I hadn't heard it got a long time. It is all love...


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