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lemex 09-05-2022 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenslade
If people - as in every single person on the planet - didn't believe in Spirituality would it still exist?

If you mean after death there were a real spiritual realm in spite of people saying there isn't, then yes it would exist and would be real. That would be interesting. If you mean every person on the planet don't believe in any spirituality I think that's not possible once the policy and attachment of fear were removed it would expand. You cant control the mind of another person. I think of thought as being honest. I think there is diversity of beingness. Even if every person believed in the same exact thing, spirituality (spirit) would still exist differently. This is what my gut tells me. If I didn't answer the question, please let me know.

inavalan 09-05-2022 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by traceyacey12
Would spirituality exist if people were to be killed if they talked about it?
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I guess you mean it as "a test of one's beliefs" ... I think that there are several ways to look at it.

Spirituality doesn't imply that you have to talk about it. You don't have to proselytize it.

If people thought twice before opening their mouths to talk, or start typing their opinions, that might actually be of benefit both to themselves and to society. People get easily carried away and embrace opinions and hypotheses as truths. Later, when proven incorrect they as easily forget their part in disseminating falsehood.

In spiritual matters, I believe that everyone should trust and follow only their own inner guidance, and not gurus and dogmas, so although it is it good to share your beliefs, that should be taken further into arguments, bullying, pressure on others.

Altair 13-05-2022 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenslade
If people - as in every single person on the planet - didn't believe in Spirituality would it still exist?


As a concept? No.
As how we describe the experience now? Yes.

Like how the world continues to exist without people and on a smaller scale, without a specific individual.

iamthat 13-05-2022 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenslade
If people - as in every single person on the planet - didn't believe in Spirituality would it still exist?

There are many people alive who are convinced that they are purely physical beings and that consciousness is somehow produced by the brain and that when the physical body dies then they will cease to exist.

These people are still spiritual beings experiencing physical existence through the human form. The fact that they are so fully identified with the physical form does not negate their spiritual nature.

Peace

utopiandreamchild 14-05-2022 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by traceyacey12
Would spirituality exist if people were to be killed if they talked about it. :)

I would say yes it would still exist.
utopia

Greenslade 15-05-2022 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by lemex
If you mean every person on the planet don't believe in any spirituality

It's a mind exercise as much as anything but yes, if absolutely nobody had any Spiritual beliefs whatsoever?

No it's probably not possible but the idea is an opportunity to explore, I think. Does Spirituality exist in its own right, or does it exist because we believe in it?

Greenslade 15-05-2022 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Altair
As a concept? No.
As how we describe the experience now? Yes.

'Karma' is a word from Spirituality, keeping it simple, so if karma didn't exist? What happens to that 'bad experience'/'negative karma, specifically how it's dealt with?

Native spirit 15-05-2022 10:26 AM

I would agree with Iamthat


Namaste

Greenslade 15-05-2022 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by iamthat
There are many people alive who are convinced that they are purely physical beings and that consciousness is somehow produced by the brain and that when the physical body dies then they will cease to exist.

There are many people convinced of many things, and the objective reality is that all reality is subjective and it's all about how we choose to perceive our individual existence. So while those people are identified with physical form, aren't Spiritual people simply identified with their own definitions of 'Spiritual'? Identification is psychology not Spirituality. The term 'Spiritual' being used as a prefix is the differentiated consciousness of the ego, and since allegedly "We are One" aren't the terms 'Spiritual' and 'Being' meaningless? 'Spiritual' only means anything if there is something that is perceived as 'non-Spiritual'.

Spirituality and schizophrenia light up the same areas of the brain, and it's only because of the way the brain is 'constructed' that we can process the abstract 'Spiritual' thoughts. Some people are not 'Spiritual' by choice they are not 'Spiritual' because their brains simply can't process it. Most people have something they can't process.

My question is how much of Spirituality is human after all? And beyond beliefs and all the rest of it, how Spiritual is being human?

Greenslade 15-05-2022 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Native spirit
I would agree with Iamthat

If everything and everybody is Spiritual, what then? And isn't Spirituality an object of consciousness and therefore has no reality in itself?


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