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sky123 07-09-2019 07:27 AM

Stigmata.
 
Fact or fiction?

Does anyone know any Stigmatics who are not or were not Christian.

BigJohn 09-09-2019 03:05 AM

Possibly, if somebody is on blood thinners: Impossible to obtain all 5 marks on blood thinners.

In my opinion, this is one for conflict thesis.

jojo50 13-09-2019 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sky123
Fact or fiction? Does anyone know any Stigmatics who are not or were not Christian.


if there are some out there who has those marks. they might want to pray to Jehovah God and get very close to him and his Son Jesus. because that's a trick of the devil, who's trying to mislead a person. peace

sky123 13-09-2019 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jojo50
if there are some out there who has those marks. they might want to pray to Jehovah God and get very close to him and his Son Jesus. because that's a trick of the devil, who's trying to mislead a person. peace




Stigmata has nothing to do with a devil :rolleyes:

Found Goat 28-09-2019 01:05 PM

In my twenties, I knew an acquaintance who was enrolled in a Christian college. (He dressed at the time in gothic garb and soon afterwards got involved in Wicca.) As a collegian, he loved reading about this topic and was quite fond of St. Francis of Assisi (c. 1220), a well-known stigmatic who was said to exude radiance. It was at that time I was introduced to this phenomenal area of study. I began delving into this topic myself and was fascinated with the account of Padre Pio Forgione, another one of these “holey” men, from the 20th century.

From what I understand, stigmaticism is an anomaly that occurs primarily within Catholicism; is a rare occurrence (something like only a few hundred recorded cases within the last millennium); with the experiencer being a highly devout, meditative sort, divinely blessed and pure in heart.

If stigmata occurs outside of Catholicism, it is probably even rarer still and are likely not authentic cases. Fakery may be involved in the way of self-inflicted wounds or blasphemous tattoos. Is the person regarded by others as virtuous, even saintly? If not, psychosis or fraud may be at work. Whatever the case, stigmatism ought to be almost extinct by now as the world becomes less pious and more mechanistic.

What I’ve always found a curious feature of this phenomenon is that the nail and spear wounds that materialize, said to replicate the Crucifixion marks, always tend to appear in the palms of these stigmatics, when numerous Bible scholars have questioned whether Christ was impaled rather through his overlapping wrists, instead. Some Bible readers think the Apostle Paul is referring to stigmata at Galatians 6:17, whereas others interpret this verse to be in reference to persecution scars.

sky123 28-09-2019 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Found Goat
In my twenties, I knew an acquaintance who was enrolled in a Christian college. (He dressed at the time in gothic garb and soon afterwards got involved in Wicca.) As a collegian, he loved reading about this topic and was quite fond of St. Francis of Assisi (c. 1220), a well-known stigmatic who was said to exude radiance. It was at that time I was introduced to this phenomenal area of study. I began delving into this topic myself and was fascinated with the account of Padre Pio Forgione, another one of these “holey” men, from the 20th century.

From what I understand, stigmaticism is an anomaly that occurs primarily within Catholicism; is a rare occurrence (something like only a few hundred recorded cases within the last millennium); with the experiencer being a highly devout, meditative sort, divinely blessed and pure in heart.

If stigmata occurs outside of Catholicism, it is probably even rarer still and are likely not authentic cases. Fakery may be involved in the way of self-inflicted wounds or blasphemous tattoos. Is the person regarded by others as virtuous, even saintly? If not, psychosis or fraud may be at work. Whatever the case, stigmatism ought to be almost extinct by now as the world becomes less pious and more mechanistic.

What I’ve always found a curious feature of this phenomenon is that the nail and spear wounds that materialize, said to replicate the Crucifixion marks, always tend to appear in the palms of these stigmatics, when numerous Bible scholars have questioned whether Christ was impaled rather through his overlapping wrists, instead. Some Bible readers think the Apostle Paul is referring to stigmata at Galatians 6:17, whereas others interpret this verse to be in reference to persecution scars.



I personally think it is caused by ' Religious Hysteria '. The power of the mind is something we haven't tapped into.

I cannot find any Stigmatics outside of Christianity, which is strange, or maybe not. Stigmatics would bring money into the Church Coffers. Padre Pio was found to be a fake when Documents came to light in the Vatican Archives, these were covered up obviously, his Followers would have paid for his favours. How many more are fake, who knows and I'm sure there will be some genuine. Therese Neumann is an interesting case.

Miss Hepburn 29-09-2019 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sky123
Stigmata has nothing to do with a devil :rolleyes:

Thank you.
Padre Pio and Theresa Neuman had nothing to do with the devil...both extremely holy people,
leading holy lives.
Suffering was a big part of each of their belief systems, btw.
(It isn't part of mine so I will not be entertaining any stigmata!)


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