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Saspian 11-02-2012 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by michaelsherlock
Have you heard what Krishnamurti said on the day he was supposed to take the reigns of a new Theosophical Society branch?

He told the story of a man walking along with the devil. They come across another man crying as he was bending down to pick something up. The man walking with the devil asked; What is that guy doing? The devil answered he found a piece of truth! Following this, man enquired of the devil, so why is he crying? The Devil answered; I am putting him in charge of organizing it!

I think this speaks quite clearly with regards to Krishnamurtis objections to become tied down to a particular group's beliefs!

Thanks m.s. a very pertinent point, well worth remembering......

Bluegreen 11-03-2013 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by Honza
Theosophy: any number of philosophies maintaining that a knowledge of God may be achieved through spiritual ecstasy, direct intuition, or special individual relations, especially the movement founded in 1875 as the Theosophical Society by Helena Blavatsky and Henry Steel Olcott.

Not according to what it says here:


An Omnipresent, Eternal, Boundless, and Immutable Principle on which all speculation is impossible, since it transcends the power of human conception and could only be dwarfed by any human expression or similitude. It is beyond the range and reach of thought -- in the words of Mandukya [Upanishad] "unthinkable and unspeakable." -- The Secret Doctrine 1:14

Bluegreen 11-03-2013 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by Saspian
To my knowledge Theosophy places an extreme emphasis on gurus. For example Hoot Koomi allegedly tutored Blavatsky.Annie Bessant, a former atheist leader was very prominent in London, later to gain high Theosophist status. Krishnamurti was designated to become god, or at least high priest of the movement; he declined.

Theosophists hold some strange notions regarding our genisis in Atlantas, Lumeria and other places......root races. Their Heaven, Devachan, is said to offer souls a review of past life and some opportunity to have input relevant to the next.................:confused:

Krishnamurti was considered by Theosophists to be the new World Teacher, the Maitreya.

Are their notions regarding the origin of our species which appeared in five different places on this planet (white, brown, red, yellow, and black) any stranger than that we were 'seeded' by aliens? It is certainly much more likely than being descended from one man and one woman. We would all be drooling idiots if that were the case, that is if we survived that long.

The Theosophists' Devachan or heaven (what's in a name?) sounds much like what I read in NDEs.

Skull 21-04-2013 05:45 PM

Letters That Have Helped Me
A spiritual classic by William Q Judge:


Skull 05-05-2013 06:36 PM

Universal Theosophy
A fine site with many PDFs of ancient texts:


Skull 06-05-2013 12:02 AM

Daily Theosophy
Another recent site on Theosophy:


Skull 25-05-2013 09:06 PM

Theosophy Conference
This is the TS Pt Loma of Holland holding a two-day event on Spirituality. Each session is archived and has both Dutch & English speakers and translations.


Skull 20-10-2013 04:31 PM

A quick survey and introduction to Divine Wisdom:


Skull 12-12-2013 09:38 PM

In Theosophy's Shadow Vanity Whispers
A recently revised old polemic:


Skull 14-12-2013 06:48 PM

From Purucker's Dialogues:

Student — Does not the aspirant himself have to make every effort to win the victory?

G. de P. — Certainly, he must walk every step along the pathway to victory. He is not carried there. Every step he himself must take. How could it be otherwise? Human adults are not fed like babes. We feed ourselves, we inform ourselves, we teach ourselves, we make our own way in the world; and if that is a necessity in ordinary human existence, I can tell you that it is tenfold the same necessity in the esoteric life. There we must ourselves win everything. And why? Because we are simply bringing out what is within us, our own will, our own consciousness, must become awakened, fully awakened, and by our own efforts.

You cannot see unless you use your own faculty of vision. You cannot understand by some one else's understanding. Is not that clear? You must gain everything you ever have in the esoteric training. And that is why, to those who do not understand, there are aspects of the esoteric training which may seem to be a little hard, because people in the Occident have been brought up with the idea that they must be carried to victory, saved by the "blood of the Lamb," and all that kind of tommyrot.

This reminds me of the teaching of the Blackies, of the Brothers of the Shadow, with the aim of sending you to sleep, trying to down the individual spiritual impulses of your own being!

No! The opposite is the truth. You cannot live by trusting to someone else to live for you. You yourself must awaken in your own soul the holy flame. And it is the same with every other step in spiritual and intellectual progress that you make. How can you experience the unspeakable delight of compassion, the ineffable feeling of being at one with the All, by hearing that some one else has thus achieved? You yourself must be the vehicle of the inner light, must gain it. It is both in you and above you, invigorating you and inspiring you. Be it!

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