True. I was trying to keep things simple by only mentioning the lower dantian.

Please note, you are born with dians (fields) dan must be developed.

What are dians and dan Buddy, I'm confused :smile:

Sorry, maybe I should have spelled it "tians", as in dantian. You don't automatically have a dantian. It has to be built. dantian means "elixir field" The field is the abdominal cavity, the elixir is, to define it simply, qi. A little more complicated than that but that will suffice for this conversation.

You have to be able to relax (song) enough to sink the qi to the abdominal cavity. In neigong this is then condensed to a ball. In Yang taijiquan it isn't. Taiji and neigong build and use the lower dantian differently.
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Thanks Buddy, I see what you mean now. I actually teach Qigong and occasional Yang Style Tai Chi but know nothing about Neigong, I must look it up....

water drop,
you ask some interesting questions.

Even in one school, there are many variations on how things are done.

And then many talk about the same thing but use different words for the same expression. In many cases it appears, people don't realize they are talking about the same thing.
Even the word 'energy' is accepted by some and rejected by others.

and then there are some people who are contrarians.... you say "left" they say "right". When you net out what they say, generally it is not much if nothing at all.

If I were you, keep asking questions, keep practicing and keep experimenting. You willget your answers.

Check out Damo (Damian) Mitchell's stuff on YT for neigong. I taught Gao style baguazhang and before that Kumar Frantzis' material.

If you like Yang style look at my teacher, Adam Mizner's stuff And his Taiji brother Liang Dehua.

Warning, a lot of it LOOKS very woo woo but having spent a week with Adam and his senior students, it is most assuredly not.

Enjoy!

as you can see even on these boards many will insist on their own rigid definitions for words then be upset when others choose not to share the same definition...

Hi Water drop,
After review your thread, I think I should say something.
First of all, you may need to know what is Chi or Qi. My answer is:Qi is a sort of life force that every live person has it. It is called life force because it is the fundamental energy source for all your body activities, including body movements, speaking, thinking, as well as the inner body activities that your mind cannot control, such as organ functioning, glandular secretion, self-healing, etc. The more Qi, the more power to the functioning of all your body activities. that's why some methodologies which is able to increase your Qi is able to heal your body over many deseases. Qi is in the meridians which spread throughout every part of your body.

The body will produce Qi everyday automatically for your daily consumption of all your body activities. Qi will be produced after you eat and breath. Please be noted that Qi is not nutrition, but something above store and move in the meridians. Only when the quantity of Qi produced everyday is more than that consumed, the total quantity of Qi in the body will increase. That is how you will get more Qi.

So your question will be how to increase the productivity of Qi. Taichi is a good way. However, as my point of view, it is comparatively slow, cause I've met a number of persons who practise Taichi for so many years, and yet they can not feel the Qi by their own body which means their quantity of Qi is still not high. Why is that? because most of them practise Taichi only, they didnot do the corresponding meditation, and this meditative technique is not something on the street. It needs experienced guidance step by step.


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[quote=LYACMT]Hi Water drop, they didnot do the corresponding meditation, and this meditative technique is not something on the street. It needs experienced guidance step by step.



Which corresponding meditation please ? Just like to add, Qigong corresponds perfectly with Tai Chi as a way to increase and 'Feel' Chi circulating through the body.