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Miss Hepburn 07-11-2020 01:27 AM

Whassup with Ancestral DNA?
 
My friend said she is dealing with depression and anxiety,
(gazing with Braco helps her). Ok.

So I say, What's this depression all about?

She says, Ancestral DNA.

I go, 'I know, I have Ancestral DNA that I am adorable, yet have a knack to draw idiots to me...
and pets that manipulate me.' :tongue:


But really, Whassup with this Ancestral DNA?

Native spirit 08-11-2020 10:44 AM

genetic ethnicity Is what comes to mind. its like doing your Family tree when you start looking into it you will find Many branches into people and places that you did'nt know about.
That's my interpretation anyway



Namaste

blackraven 28-11-2020 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
My friend said she is dealing with depression and anxiety,
(gazing with Braco helps her). Ok.

So I say, What's this depression all about?

She says, Ancestral DNA.

I go, 'I know, I have Ancestral DNA that I am adorable, yet have a knack to draw idiots to me...
and pets that manipulate me.' :tongue:


But really, Whassup with this Ancestral DNA?


Hi Miss H! I've seen one very large family torn to bits by only one member getting an ancestral DNA test and then circulating the results to the entire family. Prior to the DNA test and subsequent results, everyone had great pride in their heritage from one specific region of the planet. After the DNA test revealed that the family originated at a far greater percentage from another part of the planet entirely, many members of the family started questioning their identity and their whole upbringing based on their former beliefs. Some even became angry and depressed.

I personally wouldn't take a DNA test. I just like the fact that I am a human being on this planet having a human experience and learning as I go. But learning about my heritage I feel just mucks up the works. Some things are best left unknown in my humble opinion.

Miss Hepburn 28-11-2020 02:32 PM

Interesting, Blackraven, thanks.:wink:

Untersberg56 28-11-2020 02:44 PM

My sister had already formed the framework of our family history of the maternal side over the last 200 years from declassified census returns and very old newspapers. Next she got the historic DNA done. The DNA as matched against the old paperwork threw up some discrepancies which I pointed out, and my remarks were not altogether welcome.

The two great-great grandparents were Irish and Scandinavian, identities confirmed from the marriage certificate. The family of the Scandinavian had been Swedish in the 18th century, had emigrated across the Baltic to Mecklenburg on the German coast, which was a Duchy until the time of Bismarck and so the gr/gr/grandfather was German as from 1848. This was not a popular revelation although I always felt that I had German blood, and a strong bond to the Germans, from somewhere.

Ah! they said, But the gr/gr/grandfather by the birth certificates and the census forms was English. And so the bloodline seemed to be Irish and English, but the documents may lie while the DNA cannot. I kept pointing it out - 25 per cent Scandinavian, and less than 10 percent British blood is insufficient blood for an Irish-English line of descent. There was only one way this can have been achieved. By agreement or deception, the Scandinavian had fathered a child by the Irish gr/gr/gr/gmother, (he married her later) the paternity had been falsely declared to the registrar which was how our English surname was obtained and that was the bloodline from him to ourselves. (My sisters do not have this feeling for the Germans which offers an intriguing possibility that your blood gives you different traces from your common past. One of my sisters looks very Scandinavian.)

During the Great War, my grandfather was called up at age 38. He "did not want to fight" and went into the Medical Corps. The family always whispered that he was a coward but a man who spent part of the Great War as a medic at the Front in France was no coward. He was closer to the distant past than they were and never spoke of his descent. It is my belief that he "did not want to fight against the Germans" but wouldn't explain why.

We had a problem with the historic DNA on technical grounds. I have the Germans in my past, my sisters feel certain there is French Huguenot. 25 per cent of the DNA is "Western European". This is probably from the area either side of the Rhine with much intermarriage and may be German or French or Belgian or Dutch, and so that section of the result can never be satisfactory.

I am pleased to know my historic DNA, for before I just had this "kink" of Germanness "and your rotten Germanic ways" as my mother called them as though I was some kind of family crank and now at least I know the reason.

asearcher 01-12-2020 09:53 PM

people have dangerous prejudice against other nationalities, races and what not and building their own identity or the familys identity on something that then later show is not the entire "truth".

I personally think it is great - good to have prejudice torn down.

We're all human and that is the greatest truth of all :)

If they are giving her a hard time about it - they should look themselves in the mirror and let her be. I truly hope she will recover and be well from her depression. If she has spot a vulnerability-match for her depression in her reseach then maybe that too could be what she meant?

ocpaul20 31-03-2021 04:24 AM

Yes, I think people are naturally racist and we are probably hardwired to keep to our own race. However, not being able to leave the past behind is a problem and shows fixed thinking => fear of change.

Now, I will really throw a spanner in the works
I tell you what...if you want to REALLY annoy someone who gets upset about ancestoral history, show them this which is written by a geneticist who has developed a theory that we are hybrids from chimpanzees and something else(not alien!). It certainly has some compelling aspects to it, and although it may not be completely correct, some things match up very well. For example chimpanzees(bonobos) and these types of apes do not have whites to their eyes so that in humans must have come from the other parent...

From the macroevolution net website Introduction:
Quote:

I am a University of Georgia trained geneticist (M.S., Ph.D.) who worked in various genetics laboratories at the University of Georgia and conducted research there from 1989 to 2007. During those years I also taught biology and genetics at UGA.

(I cannot post links yet)

The most recent eDNA samples from a Bigfoot forest structure analysed by a reputable university lab say that Bigfoot samples match to also contain chimpanzee DNA.
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Native spirit 31-03-2021 09:08 PM

I would disagree that people naturally racist. yes some people may be but you cant speak for everyone.


Namaste

Johnathanrs 06-04-2021 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
My friend said she is dealing with depression and anxiety,
(gazing with Braco helps her). Ok.

So I say, What's this depression all about?

She says, Ancestral DNA.

I go, 'I know, I have Ancestral DNA that I am adorable, yet have a knack to draw idiots to me...
and pets that manipulate me.' :tongue:


But really, Whassup with this Ancestral DNA?


Ancestral DNA derives from the concept of past and future life progression. They are saying that they follow destiny and are bound by natural laws. You are dealing with a singular timeline. She is on the path of enlightenment and the ego that you are interacting with, represents one link within that chain.

There is something in her past that she may believe is blocking her that is beyond this lifetime that is causing her negative feelings.

Miss Hepburn 06-04-2021 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnathanrs
Ancestral DNA derives from the concept of past and future life progression. They are saying that they follow destiny and are bound by natural laws. You are dealing with a singular timeline. She is on the path of enlightenment and the ego that you are interacting with, represents one link within that chain.
There is something in her past that she may believe is blocking her that is beyond this lifetime that is causing her negative feelings.

So, that's a real thing? Generational and ancestral DNA?
And thanks, btw. :)
See, I would think what is in her subconscious mind would be what blocks her...our core beliefs are BIG.


ocpaul20 ---I'd be interested in that link now. :)


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