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1337_d00d 13-04-2021 05:25 PM

The "threshold"
 
I think everyone here has some kind of threshold for what is possible to manifest - if not, then why don't you fly :D - so I am wondering if this threshold should be moved somehow or if we are supposed to find a correct one. The great teacher has said "according to your your faith it shall be done unto you" but what does that really mean.

iamthat 13-04-2021 06:53 PM

Indeed, the mind is a powerful tool limited only by our beliefs.

So when it comes to manifestation, we may believe that we can manifest $100 in our lives, but if we consider manifesting $100,000 our subconscious may tell us that this will never happen. Yet in theory, manifesting $100,000 is no more difficult than manifesting $100.

So perhaps manifestation depends on clearing out our subconscious beliefs about what is possible. As always, Neville Goddard provides valuable guidance.

Peace

Miss Hepburn 14-04-2021 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by iamthat
Indeed, the mind is a powerful tool limited only by our beliefs.

Exactly!
As far as flying and walking on water...I don;t need too for one thing...so my desire or focus just is NOT there.
I accept that.
What I want or need and focus on does come about...AND ---me receiving $100,000 with no strings -
is not EVEN the most extraordinary thing that has come to me through manifesting or co-creating or
having faith something WILL indeed come about...Oh my gosh, do my friends' mouths drop...with things that happen.
They, at first, think I'm ridiculous...they actually get concerned (like you do for a crazy person).
(I've had coffee, I think I may tell a story, 1 of many):tongue: And STILL this is not the most extraordinary!
Ok, as short as I can: I HAD to get my mother, 87, in another state, out of her condo and get her here,
cuz of her progressive Dementia...she could not live with me because of all our pets, mainly....all in 2 weeks -
with other time crunches I was under ---which also incurred the most impossible 'miracles'.

I never looked for a place in the whole 2 weeks...I 'knew' my Holy Father would take care of the whole thing.
(You must understand in the core of my being - 'Unshakable knowing'..and complete trust..This is the point dear old friends think I am nuts.)

In a city of maybe 500,000 people...a friend called me from a SuperBowl party - someone had a house vacant...
would luv to rent to my mom. 325 steps from my front door.

'Anything is possible with God' and your belief...some may say faith...it's rock solid knowing for 'me'.

Native spirit 14-04-2021 08:36 PM

I would agree with both previous posts.


Namaste

inavalan 14-04-2021 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 1337_d00d
I think everyone here has some kind of threshold for what is possible to manifest - if not, then why don't you fly :D - so I am wondering if this threshold should be moved somehow or if we are supposed to find a correct one. The great teacher has said "according to your your faith it shall be done unto you" but what does that really mean.


faith = beliefs

I think it is true that "you can do anything you believe you can do".

Miss Hepburn 14-04-2021 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by inavalan
faith = beliefs

I think it is true that "you can do anything you believe you can do".

I think we had talked about this before..or it was someone else. (?)

This is a good example:
A person can have ALL the faith in the world that God can heal them.
But when they are with a healer...and they don't get healed ...guess what...
They had faith in God...but their unconscious belief (and possibly conscious) was that they deserved
their illness, were being punished ---so God would not waste His time on them.
So...no healing!

Faith and belief are actually different. (It took me over a year to understand this
because no one explained it as simply as I just did!!
If they said what I just did I would have gotten that minute!):tongue:

FallingLeaves 14-04-2021 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 1337_d00d
I think everyone here has some kind of threshold for what is possible to manifest - if not, then why don't you fly :D - so I am wondering if this threshold should be moved somehow or if we are supposed to find a correct one. The great teacher has said "according to your your faith it shall be done unto you" but what does that really mean.


we don't fly because we honestly believe we can't. Some guy name newton even quantified that belief... but there is a saying in the bible 'faith by itself if it hath not works is dead'. Just idly thinking something isn't the same as believing, apparently....

Ewwerrin 18-04-2021 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 1337_d00d
I think everyone here has some kind of threshold for what is possible to manifest - if not, then why don't you fly :D - so I am wondering if this threshold should be moved somehow or if we are supposed to find a correct one. The great teacher has said "according to your your faith it shall be done unto you" but what does that really mean.

The believe is the treshhold. The manifested reality is also the treshhold. They are one and the same.
You are always changing your believes. But the changes happen also if you are not aware of it. And your awareness can become non-aware. And that is why change also changes, into the unchanging. Being. Without becoming. And your awareness is part of the becoming. The change.

Why I don't fly? Well, that reality is not happening right now. If I try to force it, I'll fail. Can I change my belief? Well, maybe I can, but can I keep that believe stable? That is the question. How stable and consistent can I be in that reality? Not very, unless I make huge sacrifices in other areas of my life, in which case, that stability would be an illusion really. Not worth it. That's the issue with putting manifestations at top priority.

You forget that the only reason we want anything at all, ever, is simply because we believe it will make us feel better if we got it. Put the emotion on top priority I guess. But can I change the emotion? Nope. Same principle applies. Believes really do matter, but the amount of focus, determination and consistency that is required to manifest an emotion, is not to be underestimated, if you ask me. Takes huge discipline. From my point of view.

Ewwerrin 18-04-2021 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by inavalan
faith = beliefs

I think it is true that "you can do anything you believe you can do".

Most people use the word faith to describe something unseen. believe is when you already got plenty of evidence to support that faith. I'd put the word faith more in the category of hopefulness.

Native spirit 18-04-2021 09:54 AM

Faith is the stumbling block for a lot of people including myself. i have faith in my own abilities. but faith for help from others No i dont.
I am self relient i have to be. so to try and manifest anything from the universe
it just does not work for me.
And it is not that i have a negative outlook because i dont.
All my life i have helped others, and told them how to manifest for themselves and it has worked.
But for myself its a no


Namaste


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