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The Buddhist's Hells are many and vast. It would be interesting to find out which religion has more Hells? |
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Lets say Eve did sin, as the first one. Lets say it was beyond any doubt.
Would you accept that? Nah, I guess not. You would not accept that.... you just can't. (Also, weren't you banned? Like 5x or something already..) |
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Incidentally, the Mayans' creation myths are very similar and they also have their deluge tales. 'Satam' is Enki's title, it means 'Administrator'. The interaction between God and Satan in the early Bible and the Garden of Eden - which was a real place by the way - was a depiction of the Sumerian tales of Enlil/God vs Enki. The female of the tale is most likely Nammu, who was mother of both Enlil/God and Enki/Satam/Satan. In the Garden of Eden Enlil wanted to keep the creations subservient and ignorant, essentially a slave race that wouldn't rebel. Enki/Satan - who later became the inspiration for the Greek Prometheus - wanted them to be conscious. Hence the Tree of Knowledge, aka consciousness, and the apple that represents individuated consciousness. And when Adam took a bite of the apple he was conscious that he was naked. I guess if Enlil/Yahweh had punished Enki/Satan then Nammu would have had something to say, so he took it out on created Eve instead - she who had disobeyed him. It's interesting that God/gods are surprisingly human, perhaps we were created in their likeness after all. |
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In the wider context there seems to be a worldwide phenomena that was going on at that time which nobody seems to want to know about, and the Bible and Christianity was only a part of it. Noah's flood wasn't the only account account either, and the tales of the Mayans only differ geographically. Quote:
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The devil is a fear-based control mechanism, the post-Constantine Christians were particularly good at those. They could have adapted Zarathustra's God and Ahura Mazda/devil when the Persians invaded, but Enki was the original devil/Satan. Oh, and Abraham's God was Marduk. |
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The first mention of God in Genesis is 'Elohim' which is either a grammatical error or has a deeper meaning than just 'God'. However, the serpent (in the hidden version) is wisdom. It's about the Tree of Life and the Tree of knowledge (2:9) (that some believe are the same tree), said to be about the downfall of 'man', thrown to the bottom of this metaphorical tree and having to learn to climb it to become good enough to walk with God again. It's a bit more complicated than that but I'm trying to save forum space! I'd suggest reading The Ladder of Lights by William Grey for an esoteric account (as a start, anyway as there are many related books, the Torah, the Zohar, heavy going to say the least etc). The Old Testament seems misogynistic because the priesthood teachings were exclusively the province of men. In fact one of Jesus' 'sins' was revealing mysteries to Mary Magdalene. . |
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Adam was created together with Lilith, from the same clay.
But Adam demanded her to be submissive as she was only a woman. Since they were truly equal, Lilith refused and when Adam didn't let up demanding her submission, she left. Only to be vilified for that. Then Eve came as his second partner. Personally I only see this as either a story that depicts how the imbalance between man & woman came to be, or as a warning to women that they better be submissive or else! Eve eaten the forbidden fruit... a nice story to put in people's head to illustrate woman is to blame for bad things happening because they do not obey. Again a brutal reminder that we women have to be submissive as we're unworthy and cannot handle responsibility on our own. I wonder how mankind would've evolved if the bible would tell the story of Adam & Lilith, equals, and thus give us the story & example that man & woman are equal. I think we would be a whole different, more loving and balanced species today. |
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