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ImthatIm 25-02-2021 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by sentient
I had posted this before, but I'll add it here as well.

‘Listening to our souls overlap’:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5HcLFyPkYs

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Nice one.
It intrigued me to watch other videos on the Sami.:smile:


I've watched several now and will post some of the ones I like.
Seen one about 1890s Sami taking reindeer herd to Alaska to
help Alaskan Natives raise and herd them.
Their Sami ancestors are still living up there in Alaska.

ImthatIm 25-02-2021 10:04 AM

sentient I really, really enjoyed these 2 videos
first one is about 6:30 mins. 2nd is almost 30 mins. long.


The Sami people (from "The Winds of the Milky Way", 1977)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myVHFeyWWM0


The wind is blowing through my heart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pINieDqXOvw

Alright then, I have enjoyed our communicating back and forth.
Thanks for putting up with me and my foolishness.:smile:


PS, I have seen the North star and I track the Big dipper
round about. Not sure if you can see it down under.
So just thought I would let you know it is still doing
what it does.

ImthatIm 25-02-2021 10:37 AM

sentient
This Youtube channel has both part 1 & 2 of the videos
that talks of the 1890s when the Sami brought reindeer to Alaska
if you are interested.


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuV...6b6faKnaSTzJVQ

sentient 25-02-2021 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImthatIm
sentient I really, really enjoyed these 2 videos
first one is about 6:30 mins. 2nd is almost 30 mins. long.


The Sami people (from "The Winds of the Milky Way", 1977)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myVHFeyWWM0


The wind is blowing through my heart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pINieDqXOvw


Interesting video choice there ImthatIm.
I guess Nils-Aslak Valkeapää (translated “Whitehead”) coached/influenced people out of the shame (the way our parent’s generation generally never could come out of that trauma).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Efu-tnZt_mU

Also Interesting: “The Sun, My Father”
https://khio.no/system/images/W1siZi...1d/danbolt.jpg

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To my other grandmother, Sun was/is a Goddess (i.e. she) – who gave the Spider a thread so it can move between Earth and Sky/Heaven. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e0/fc...7b89c1bcb0.jpg

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The function of the mother deity (on the left) standing on a spider-like animal is marked by solar symbols – a circle on her forehead or an additional female mask above her head and sometimes even a mask on her chest.

But then again, this other gran, - according to some Saami relatives - would have gotten her deity from the Komi/Udmurt reindeer herder ancestry who moved into Lapland and at one point married Saami.

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My nondual gran was related to a Valkeapää family, (& sounds like it is the same one) but she held the Eagle to be central to her worldview & not the Central Sun:
https://rgdn.info/assets/uploads/ima...os/4e29e-1.jpg

So many different local beliefs (even in one family) that one has to chase these around Fennoscandia & half across Siberia & beyond to know where they all came from …

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sentient 26-02-2021 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImthatIm
sentient
This Youtube channel has both part 1 & 2 of the videos
that talks of the 1890s when the Sami brought reindeer to Alaska
if you are interested.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuV...6b6faKnaSTzJVQ


I had watched another youtube documentary about it, but this was interesting also.

Just one thing, that was such an 'odd note' ... weird ...
Part one 21:30 -21:57
.... and the Saami bloke didn't recognize moose antlers?!!!
Where is his identity - in his clothes?

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ImthatIm 26-02-2021 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sentient
I had watched another youtube documentary about it, but this was interesting also.

Just one thing, that was such an 'odd note' ... weird ...
Part one 21:30 -21:57
.... and the Saami bloke didn't recognize moose antlers?!!!
Where is his identity - in his clothes?

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Yeah, I thought that was funny. Elk???? What????
At least they are young and learning.

I had seen something about a bigger Elk than the Moose.
The extinct Irish Elk.... Wow!


I do know many that have their identity in their regalia... Unfortunately.

ImthatIm 26-02-2021 01:59 PM



Amazing historical and Spiritual depiction.




ImthatIm 26-02-2021 02:40 PM

I remember you posted these before.
I like studying them more and more since they keep revealing
things I did not notice before. They remind me of nature,
the more you settle into it the more it reveals.

I am wondering if 1 c is depicting Thunderbirds on the sides??
If not thunderbirds then Goose or Crane becuase of the straight beeks?
Also I will guess 1c is depicting Badger or Wolverine on the bottom
but just guessing...
1 c The 5 skulls on top I would say it depicts the ancestors.
1 c It looks to me Thunderbird heads(4) that surround the central
main head with curved beeks????

I just noticed picture 2 there is a circle at the
anus of the horse. I would assume this is for the value of the use of the feces in fire and or fire keeping.

I could go on with these all day.
Amazing, Amazing. I love pictures and art.
I will let them rest and return to them later.

.............< 1 a >,.......................< 1 b >........................< 1 c >


........................................< 2 >...........................................

sentient 26-02-2021 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ImthatIm

Amazing historical and Spiritual depiction.



Yeah, I thought that was good.
But then I started thinking … “The Sun, My Father” ?

Hang on … but “Beaivi” (Day, daylight, sun, sunlight) … is a female name.
Which doesn’t mean that some Saami could not have regarded the Central Sun as a Father … instead of a Mother … (I just took it for granted that the Sun is female).

This provided the answer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaivi
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The Sami Sun-deity is usually depicted as female, but sometimes as male.

Since the Drum is a cognitive map – for me the Centre is the World Pole (nailed in Pole Star) with the Eagle on top. But for Saami it is the Central Sun. In practice though it mounts to the same thing.
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The drums of the Sâmes shamans depict their mythical representation of the world. These cosmologies are featured around a central sun, based on a sacred, tripartite model. These veritable cognitive maps are used during shamanistic trances.


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ImthatIm 26-02-2021 06:38 PM

Cool, stumbled on this pdf book of info, while looking for sami symbol meanings.
I wonder how accurate it is???
Written by Asian about Sami. He was curious about any cross-cultural
similarities.



https://heesooklee-niinioja.weebly.c...sami_drums.pdf


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