I may have it then. LOL
I will look into Vitaklenz .

We harvested some Devil's club (Oplopanax horridus) this past year.
We have incorporated it into our medicine tea.
Started in June or so.
I should do some fasting with it.
We also need to get our purification lodge back up but in a different location.
Toxin remover, the sweat house is.

It is a broad question. Anything?
It sounds plausible. Depending on your meaning of Angel.

I am just pushing that angle, because it is the only peripheral neuropathy angle I know about.
And I do know how it feels when it starts from fingers and toes, comes up and then seemingly invades the whole body.

But in any case - it doesn’t hurt to do a cleanse from the start and a fast.
And then start introducing foods one by one.
But read all your ingredient labels really carefully, because I don’t think you can even buy ‘black pepper’ without gluten or wheat in it sometimes. The most harmless foods can contain gluten, wheat or soy, which are often the main culprits. But your food diary will reveal it.

It doesn’t hurt either to treat your situation as a ‘leaky gut’ problem.
So please learn all about a ‘leaky gut’.
If it turns out that is not the cause, at least then you would have eliminated it.

Some iridology-naturopaths are really knowledgeable about this, where doctors aren’t.

Here in Straya - at the doctor’s they always ask if you are Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander.
I have to say no, but I should really say yes, because we, the old hunter-gatherer population of Fennoscandia have the same or similar risk factors as Aboriginals.

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Sentient I do appreciate it.

When I heard leaky gut, I was thinking like perforated .
I see, gut floral secretion's And specific flora live on specific food
types, colonize, then secrete thru the lining and overwhelm the body with toxic waste.

Cleanse with herbs, then find out what food they like and don't like and change the
floral colony to a desired type by food consumption.
Maintain healthy floral colony.

Easier said then done on the food part.
Fasting and ingesting herbs to cleanse is one thing.
Obeying Potlach/traditional food rules is another.
It is customary to not refuse any offering, especially food.
Or you get the eye and the back turned to you.
It hurts. LOL, I know, I refused a few things when I first came to Nisqually.
But if I can find relief by a few backs turned, then I think
I'll brave it.

Paul Stamets is a mushroom mentor to a mushroom mentor from way back.
He studies medicinal/food and functional uses for Mushrooms.

I had worked for one of his old partners from way back further.
I need to study what magic treasures he has found that may help
with gut health and immune system health.
Plus many other magical projects that I have envisioned.

Just a vid. as an intro to Paul not necessarily related to neuropathy at all.
Most of his talks are a bit long, so I found a 11min. one and go from there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDRkhS902Qs

Here is another one 25 min. if no intrest no worries.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W57nYOaQmIU

Bee Man Rave Art

These traditional peoples don't have lactose intolerance issues?

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"An estimated 74-79 percent of American Indian adults have lactose intolerance. Yet, the Dietary Guidelines advises that everyone eat two or three servings of dairy foods."

Your area ImthatIm says: “77% of participants reported having no known food allergies. 14% of respondents reported being lactose intolerant.
Increasing lactose intolerance among tribal members can be a challenge for tribal cooks”.

Maybe it is not an increase in lactose intolerance, but rather increase in an awareness of the issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-fiJCfGm10

Heh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9knGW8IuLlk

Also when one doesn't have the enzimes for all this Western grain and vegetarian diet, you just become increasingly more fatiqued and start to have deficiences even without the actual allergies or intolerances.

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Diabetes is a big problem also. Many elders suffer from it.
At Tribal dinners you can see some traditional foods but there
is a whole lot of processed foods that have sugars and dairy and pasta's.
I don't think I have ever seen pasta rot. :icon_eek:
There is something drastically wrong with the American food system.
I think most of our foods don't rot easily. It all seems preserved with
some kind of chemicals.
I get tired of seeing how businesses are trying to kill us with chemicals
all for the dollar.

We have been slowly moving toward more of a paleo diet at home.
Economics always plays a part in food decisions.

We do have a Tribal garden which has tickled me pink, since I so
love garden vegies. Store vegies just don't seem like they taste like food
anymore. GMO I guess.
We enjoy growing stuff at home too.

'Indigenous genes' and Western agricultural diet is not a healthy combination!
For Palaeolithic hunter-gatherer genes, a Paleo diet imo. is a must rather than some fancy food trend to follow.
But I am not sure if it is that good for European agriculturalist’s genes which are used to eating grains for nutrients and do have the enzymes for it.

Agricultural West also seems to hail Soy as some kind of a health food and they put it into almost every processed food item. But soy is a real silent killer – for starters if as a hunter-gatherer you don’t have enzymes for it, it doesn’t turn into nutrients in the body. Secondly having slowly become malnourished, it puts your omega 3s and omega 6s ratio out of balance. We need both omegas, but soy has too much omega 6s, which introduces a chronic inflammation in the body.
When your body is fighting a low-grade inflammation all the time – then your body becomes susceptible to immune system problems.

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Luckily my rs4988235 gene mutation is GA, so I can handle lactose, but it is not really good for me either.
Half of the family are GG and I feel sorry for them how they suffer.

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Yes.
Personally - being a blood type B, I have hypoglycaemia, which is opposite of diabetes, but I have to watch that sugar intake just like diabetics.

Have a look at your blood-type diet. It has some truth in it, but then I have to convert it to Paleo.
Like for blood type B oats are supposed to be beneficial, but even certified gluten-free oats clog up my system. And rice has arsenic. So Broccoli-Cauliflower “Rice” it is, tastes good too.

Yeah. Just have to go totally clean with foods.
Luckily where I live, we have got a good farmer’s market. Plenty of organic produce, relatively cheap and clean.

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A new single from my currently favourite band:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8fWTIUWU2U

I think we need some heavy metal song for Ancestral Diet also! LOL.

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This kinda happened the other night.
Me: “Hey, listen to my favourite band!”

(((( Shepherd’s Reign - Manu )))) ……….

Guest: “Your favourite music make my ears bleed!”

Samoan Music VS Heavy Metal - heh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGhbeYiEaDQ

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We have elk hunters looking for elk
for wife's dad's memorial, so I put up
some tunes with elk and hunting.

Tribal tines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_AeqSGk9w4

Tribal tines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIH4UHnrw-Y

Elk meat is grass-fed meat, so the omega3 – omega6 ratio should be good (?).
What does that mean ???
I went to look at my own FADS genes status, and it says that being GG – my body can utilize omega 3s the best. In other words - I guess, an Inuit Diet suits me to the T & haha, now I know why gran and her Skolt Saami genetic relatives were so short, they lived mainly on fatty fish and seals:
https://news.berkeley.edu/2015/09/17...d-paleo-diets/

I guess this means also, that we cannot utilize plant oils rich in omega 6s as well (?).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9cAwvkyReg

All I know, is - that when my dietary balance went from omega3s to omega6s it started to make me ill.

But this might not apply to European agriculturalist descendants, who are GT or TT. In fact the opposite might be the case (?).

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This might be a bit mean to say, but genes do not lie – people do and can pretend to be all sorts.

I might think it so cool to be like an Amerind :cool:

But the more I talk to you ImthatIm, the more I realize just how ‘Arctic’ I am.

And there is a boundary.

Just as well all-inclusiveness (of one red blood) includes boundaries and diversity :smile:

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Today so far my food intake was:
Deer neck broth with onions for breakfast with coffee
Some deer meat later in the day for brunch and lunch and Medicine tea though out day.
can of tuna and 2 pickles for dinner.

Medicine tea has: Devils club, swamp tea, Bear root, Bitter root, Elderberry both berries and leaves.

As far as my genes go I don't even remember my blood type.
I do remember it was a common one. A+, O+, B+. One of those I think.
I am glad you done research on the gene stuff, it sounds
very interesting.

Wife said she was going to get cauliflower flower. I said: Cool. LOL
I wouldn't be surprised if she is lactose intolerant.
She has bad intestinal issues.

Why is it mean? LOL
Genes are genes. Diversity is everywhere.
If I make you feel more artic, I would think that's the good thing.

EDIT: Boundary ???

Integrating into the tribe & its culture is totally different thing than cultural appropriation … but maybe this appropriation and creating fake id’s mainly happens in America … and maybe also because one can get all sorts of benefits with it …

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It is.
The more I look into it, the more similarities come up from cold adapted to FADS genes to Stone Cairns and Simulacra - Navigation, Folklore, and Tradition in the Arctic:
https://p0.pikist.com/photos/414/67/...er-balance.jpg

https://i1.wp.com/unusualplaces.org/...pg?w=450&ssl=1

https://www.instagram.com/p/BnAaCR2n...ource=ig_embed

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… to lactose intolerance:
Diluted reindeer milk can often be tolerated as it is low in lactose.
In the town where my relatives live, the supermarkets have a great variety of combined gluten/soy/lactose free foods, which is great as to one side of the family this is not funny, but it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=texkDtgQNAQ

Lactose intolerance isn’t life threatening, but undiagnosed Celiac Disease or Gluten Intolerance is:
https://lirp-cdn.multiscreensite.com...4e5c-1920w.jpg

and so can undiagnosed Yeast Overgrowth become:
https://www.drhagmeyer.com/wp-conten...-testing-3.png

And Leaky Gut.

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Between Inuit and/or Arctic cultures and Amerid cultures there are marked differences. Maybe Tlingit and Haida kind of sit in the “boundary”, sharing similarities with both sides.

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sentient

So many variables, That I can't say or know.
I guess it comes down to, is one adding to or taking from and
then there is the perspective of the one judging such matters.

I have seen people fight over such matters like appropriations.
One Blood and One Love is a hard road to travel. IMO

I would totally appropriate Rastafarian attitudes if I could. LOL

But then I guess I don't have to appropriate what is freely given.

INI, Jah Rastafari :hug3:

The Prophesy of the 7 fires.

Video is about 18mins. long
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STVfqA0KUM0

Hopi -Messages from the Ancients

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn65fJp6m8A

ImthatIm
“The wearing of hair in dreadlocks by Rastafarians is believed to be spiritual”

If I had dreadlocks, I would probably look like a plucked chicken with a few feathers still left sticking out - but I have no problem with others … black or white having dreads, they do look good.

As for the red or yellow though it is a bit different - because, when you are a dry earwax type (East Asians and Native Americans) you hardly sweat from your armpits – so, it is the head that turns into a ‘fountain’.
And fancy having sweaty-wet dreads hanging down your face in the heat … would they ever even dry up in the tropics and its humidity or just go mouldy?
But maybe dreads are possible?

Earwax and your ancestry:
https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/gor...-your-ancestry

Dreadlocks on whites as "cultural appropriation"? (an old video):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDlQ4H0Kdg8

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I liked the ending of your first link.
Shoot, I might just smell others Qtips. LOL

Yeah your second vid sounds like the appropriations I am aware of.
They usually end up in combative words. Like political grumblings.


I could go down appropriation trails, and have in life.
They always seem far from unity and Love.
I have a choice, The Red Road or the Black Road.
I chose the Red Road and flirt in the Black Road occasionally, but the
Black road stings, quite a bit.

Rasta dreads, not on this head. I am afraid I might
get stinky ear wax in them. LOL
That's why I said attitudes. The Irie feeling and the INI.

My Qtips have no odour whatsoever, nor have I ever needed a deodorant.

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Perfect hairdo for the dry earwax people in the summertime.
Turn half of your hair into wings on both sides of your head.
They might catch the breeze ‘n’ keep your face cool and your hair dry:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8zD2m24Bpk

Propeller cap frame optional:
https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1OPeQX..._Q90.jpg_.webp

How does the war bonnet do in the heat?

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As a woman, forget about the voluptuous body curves of Africans or Mediterraneans (Near Eastern genes), but then again as a consolation prize, one must be happy for never needing to shave ones legs or arms or that moustache.

So, if it is not one thing - it will be the other.

I just like it that one cannot appropriate genetic traits.

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ImthatIm

Check him out ….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bL6g_6qVLY

At 3:44 he goes into “our” ho-ho-ho singing mode (joik) for the ‘Universal Echo’– after which he hits the high register like the Northern Cree drummers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrKDmn6-d7Q

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sentient
This, I do not know.
Although, my Father keeps our family bonnet
but it is in poor shape and I have only seen it once.

I have to say, you know a whole lot on genes and traits and nutrition
for the different gene pool types. These things have never really become a
priority for myself to look into. I always understood I have mut/mixed genes and
come from unwanted and illegitimate people, on most of my family lines.
I belong in no specific gene pool group.(Or at least most is uncertain)
But yet, I belong anywhere I walk until I can't walk. But I don't stay
where I am not welcome unless there is a higher reason.
I can without doubt say I belong to the 2 legged nation and
my genes go back to the first peoples.
I live simply, with deodorant or without. LOL

I rest in my Center

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...HwHLQ&usqp=CAU
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Also: here is how I purify.

Now for a song from the Native American Church.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmSISB9f06U

A Red Road song by David Swallow jr.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EZHAOD6tPs

Beautiful voice.
Was that a tear in Simons eye? Oh my.

Maybe you should think about looking into it. It is quite amazing what you learn about your ancestry.
Maybe there is a reason (you thought) ‘you chose’ the Amerind way?
https://www.familytreedna.com/produc...SAAEgLr-_D_BwE

I love this professor’s work/books:
https://www.google.com/search?q=juha...-8--Uu6QaIrChM

Don’t know how much research he had done into Siberian/Saami/Karelian Shamanism & how many books he had written – until he found out he himself belongs to a famous-famous Saami Shaman family line/tree by blood.

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Once you have been cut off from your ancestral lands, culture, people & in fear of racial discrimination etc. you have been denied the knowledge of who you are – and yet – you (((remember))) stuff … it gives you have this burning desire to find your way back.

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sentient
I chose to be a biker with my hair in the wind on my iron pony.
My spiritual path chose me or just showed up in front of me to walk.

I have to keep things short since my PC keeps dying.

sentient

Maybe I already have thought much about it.
It may be amazing. My trust factor is low on paying someone
to tell me a story which may be true or may not be true.
I also think the DNA banks are limited.
I know people with defined DNA structures and ancestry that do NOT come up
after paying for their personal results. So there are horror stories
also. I know, their getting better. Many indigenous cultures seem very limited
in the DNA banks.
My own Spiritual endeavors have revealed much.
Unfortunately I do not believe the internet is a place I
am comfortable or trust revealing such in-depth personal
experiences. Both because I guard such experiences and the Ego loves to be involved.
I have already gone beyond my trust level on this very site.
It is a quandary for me.
I do however try to tell some things in a general way.

The ‘story’ dna companies create is rather vague, a bit like reading your sun-sign horoscope.

The best thing about it is that you get a list of your 1st to distant cousins.
For example - I learned about my Saami-dna, but had no idea which specific group I was related to / descendant of …. until I discovered a big cluster of cousins from a specific group/place.

The same with my Finland-Swedish grandparent’s side. I knew next to nothing about them, but now I’ve got a massive family-trees going back to 1500 something with histories, historical persons, customs etc. etc.

The other best thing is that you can download your raw dna and with that data you can start doing your own research using GEDmatch admixture calculators for example.


I do know that when it comes to Amerind-dna it does get complicated:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geE7zsehccY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyXF_LffAM0


Well, that just gives me the skeleton to work from …. 16% + non-European.
Once I start adding Siberian populations into the calculator mix, I discover that most of my “Amerind” disappears as it is ‘hiding’ in my Chuckhi, Nganassan, Dolgan and Selkup ancestry and then depending on the populations used, I will only get 1-5% of the old-old Siberian/Amerind (Siberians no longer carry, but say, Mayans still do).

Trudell says something like “Ancestral knowledge - encoded in the DNA”
And I think that is so true.
To access the cellular memory – the collective subconscious, is a bit like ‘remembering past lives’.
Besides, Amerind-energy-signature (of the auric/energy field) is unique.

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sentient

I know your subjects are serious in nature but I can't help myself
it is my nature to see the humorous side of things.
When I read your quote above I thought "Oh, I got a song for that cousin thing". LOL

Just listen to the first 34 seconds of song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skIWuRkfx3A

sentient
Your quite knowledgeable on DNA.:notworthy:
I have the alcoholic gene. Regardless of which ancestor passed it on.
Though I know it was my Father.
He is a gun slinging drunk with a dark violent side.
No doubt ancestral.
He raised us to watch his back from all people trying to get him for all
the grief and violence he spread.
The simple fact is it became an apparent ancestral part of my life.
I would be a casualty by now, of the hopeless alcoholic variety
if not for the Red Road of Life.
I was a Dr. Jekyll Mr. Hyde drinker.

ImthatIm
Did you not have another role model to compare him to?

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1877 Peace Vision of Crazy Horse Warrior

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lARwg0OQJ7A

It is a strange relationship a Father and a Son.
I had my Mother as a role model who he
beat, shot at and blamed for my sisters death.
Honestly I was attracted to the false power of violence.
I could not see her as a role model until years later
after my Naval Captain of the ship I was on had spoke these words in 1985.

"I know your kind, I don't like your kind and I will do
everything in my power to get you off of this ship."

These words confused me. "my kind" I did not know what he meant
by my kind. Of course I can see now that he probably meant I was just like my Father
and Grandfather even though he did not know them, he could see the fruits of that sort of upbringing.
A life set on a destructive path. Not caring about life and Love
but only spreading our grief and misery and calling that happiness. :confused:
At least I was able to look at myself honestly for the first time.
Before I would always blame what I done on the alcohol and not believe it was me
that acted that way.(Dr.Jykell Mr. Hyde)
Any who, I did see it was me and not the alcohols fault.

So in 1985 I threw myself and life at the Mercy of an unknown God and AA.
5 years later took my first step on the Red Road of Life. So I have had many roles models since 1985
and even my Mother became a role model until she crossed in 1990.
So I guess my whole point when it comes to DNA and looking back.
It is stingy and hurtful for me. So I have still this life and family that I still go through
the clearing of emotions and traumas. So it seems unfathomable to dredge up people
I do not even know yet.

Any way, computer is heating up so I will stop, so I do not lose these words.

My Western (‘white’) great-grandfather was an alcoholic, so my grandfather as a boy of 12 years old started to look after his mother and his remaining siblings (3 had already died), plus he also took on the responsibility of educating them.

He absolutely HATED alcohol and also Church, which in communions dished out that EVIL drink – heh.

Great grandfather’s family had been “Svecoman” (supporters of the Swedish rule) but since he had married into a “Fennoman” family (the senator was a relative of) – sorry about the links:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fennoman_movement
– my grandfather, the now Social Justice Warrior (SJW) as a young man also wanted to know more about the roots of Finnish culture and when an opportunity came for him to work for the St. Petersburg – Murmansk railway – he moved East:
https://www.lernidee.de/files/map_murman_railroad.jpg

When he in turn married this tiny, dark skinned woman from an area where people were called ‘Lapps’ – this was toooooo much. His family flat out refused to become God-Parents to my grandparent’s first born who was too dark … and they disowned us.
So never mind this absolutely useless alcoholic who himself had to be taken care of and who let his family starve. Some dignity of their ‘superiority’ had to be maintained by creating this taboo ‘colour boundary’ my grandfather had now grossed.

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Ok. Trying to make a long story shorter – my ‘white’ grandfather marrying my gran was like a Britt marrying an Oz-Aboriginal. The difference in the worldview … culture … was that great, so my role models were white vs. indigenous in juxtaposition (to get a full view) .. as from infant to …. I grew up with them …

I know who I am.
When (whites), especially Germans see me, they display this immediate trust-factor.
When some Aboriginal Elders, PNG’s, Vanuatuans, some Maories or some First Nations Americans have seen me, they might get confused a bit at first or come out strait with it, like this one PNG lady:
“When I look at you, I see a white person – but you are not – not r-e-a-l-l-y”.

Or they just see me, take a beeline strait to me and expect me to acknowledge our connection, which of course I do, how could I not.

the "Tribe Called Red" mentioned about the indigenous being ‘invisible’ in the country.
My definition of ‘invisibleness’ is a bit different.
Whom do you think I can trust.
The ones that see me beyond the veil of appearances or the ones that do not i.e. the ones to whom I remain invisible (whether they claim to be indigenous themselves and also anti-cultural appropriation activists saving native spirituality to boot ...or not) ….

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Nice share of some of your history.
I use to carry my resentment luggage everywhere
I went because I thought I was justified or right to
keep it.
Luckily those on the Redroad said if wanted to walk their
way i needed to learn to get rid of my rightness to follow the Chanunpa Wakan.
Also to learn how to trust and Love. these are big lessons to learn.

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One blood/ Redroad language video

Lakota wisdom keepers. 6:21 mins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU4p_StNFpc

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Wallace Black Elk/ Earth Person
1.42 mins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZM6MfyZf0o
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Universal Mind- Wallace Black Elk (9:27 mins. long.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2nLb1KDfLI

These are teachings I am familiar with and Love.
I miss these old teachers. Even though I never sat with Wallace
I can sit with him now through the videos he left.
It is GOOD.