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Native spirit 03-12-2020 02:02 PM

It has been lovely to read these posts and Listen to the music



Namaste

ImthatIm 03-12-2020 04:04 PM

This song touched my heart this morning.
Sometimes you need help from others in Life
to feel a sense of security and wellness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du7WsfG-u78

sentient 03-12-2020 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ImthatIm
This song touched my heart this morning.
Sometimes you need help from others in Life
to feel a sense of security and wellness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du7WsfG-u78


Great!
Now you are talking about these school project songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44hinTX5Ico

Examples from the Far North Queensland tropics & New South Wales:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHmxUFwMh0c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIVk-DIdRcs

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sentient 03-12-2020 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Native spirit
It has been lovely to read thee posts and Listen to the music



Namaste

Just join in and let all this indige stuff pour out :biggrin:

It is in your heart and mind anyways :hug3:

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sentient 03-12-2020 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ImthatIm
My family was like, Party cause someone died and we're grieving.
Get the poker cards and whiskey and beers.
Invite all the friends and family to grieve with us.
Maybe shoot the guns later on in the night, wake every body up because we're grieving.
I grew up in alcoholism and gunfire.
Starts sounding like a country song.
My Father was a Harley riding Native, black hat cowboy, gunslinger. For sure.


Similar to Irish wake – no?

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Most traditional people here on Turtle Island (as it was known before the America's.)
that I have been around, say grieve in the funeral and speak their name show pics or vids.
Then no speaking the name or viewing pics. / vids. for a year.
This year is the time for the Spirit to travel.
Speaking their name or anything that induces tears or grieving could interrupt (Call back)
their journey Home.
At 1 year you do a memorial and giveaway and dinner.
Then you can speak the name or show pics. or vids.


Sounds like a good protocol to follow.

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I’ll bring this video clip (also my sentiments) back from the other thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvUQsKnNO5s

We in the East weren’t forcibly converted to Christianity – but accepted the Russian Orthodox Church, which meant the survival of indigenous languages and culture alongside with Christianity.

Later, when the Lutherans took over – a Saami Shaman in my family tree was condemned to death for using the drum - allegedly for dark purposes.

Lots of shamans (people felt allegiance to) at that time sang themselves to ‘the other side’ voluntarily – trying to save others from persecutions.

Perhaps closest example of our mixed with orthodox ways & spirit houses is found in Alaska:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xvoH67IAP0

https://www.thegypsythread.org/spirit-houses-eklutna/

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ImthatIm 04-12-2020 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by sentient
Great!
Now you are talking about these school project songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44hinTX5Ico

Examples from the Far North Queensland tropics & New South Wales:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHmxUFwMh0c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIVk-DIdRcs

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Checked out your first vid.
Yes, this stuff is right up my alley, since we have worked
with kids, for 30 yrs. and encouraged the traditional ways.
That's why my heart sings to see them get their voices out.
I know my own traumas I never voiced, until years down the road.
I can attest that is no way to live. (without a voice.)

ImthatIm 04-12-2020 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sentient
Great!
Now you are talking about these school project songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44hinTX5Ico

Examples from the Far North Queensland tropics & New South Wales:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHmxUFwMh0c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIVk-DIdRcs

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2nd vid. Loved the way it ended by jumping into the traditional
and then the natural river/nature sound.
It reminds me how we sometimes just take kids or people to the river
and let natural forces do their natural healing.

3rd vid. I liked it's grittiness and message.

ImthatIm 04-12-2020 12:37 PM

My answers are in the quote box inside the quote box.
Just trying a new way to see if I like.

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Originally Posted by sentient
Similar to Irish wake – no?
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Could be there was whiskey. LOL




Sounds like a good protocol to follow.
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Yes, and I should have added that people seem pretty loose on it nowadays.

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I’ll bring this video clip (also my sentiments) back from the other thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvUQsKnNO5s
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I almost missed this link, that would have been unfortinate.Nice production but I needed them to zoom in on the nose ring to make sure ,but I imagine it was the right one. It still makes me laugh. I am familiar with similar stories and it seems so hard to deal with these things in a healthy manner.


We in the East weren’t forcibly converted to Christianity – but accepted the Russian Orthodox Church, which meant the survival of indigenous languages and culture alongside with Christianity.
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That was nice of them

Later, when the Lutherans took over – a Saami Shaman in my family tree was condemned to death for using the drum - allegedly for dark purposes.
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Sounds like an old trick (devil possessed)
People use name calling(savage, heathen etc.) to dehumanize and make their actions justified.



Lots of shamans (people felt allegiance to) at that time sang themselves to ‘the other side’ voluntarily – trying to save others from persecutions.

Perhaps closest example of our mixed with orthodox ways & spirit houses is found in Alaska:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xvoH67IAP0
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I'll bet your chuckling because of the bluegrass in the vid. I know I am. LOL where's my chuckle emoji ?


https://www.thegypsythread.org/spirit-houses-eklutna/

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This caught my eye in the Gypsy thread


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I had just went through a different type of mini ceremony.
Times are changing.
It had to do with dreaming.
fog, Raven and sparrows. Humor and healing.
That was all fine but my Friends (Ojibwe and Cree) sat up with me all night
and partook through the computer and went through it with me.
It was kind of wild, trance states with little sleep. Nice.
I am fully convinced that didgeridoo music helped in this also.

ImthatIm 04-12-2020 04:20 PM

NW Coastal longhouse


Vulnerability
This has been coming up in my life lately and I understand why
and I understand it is a good thing, if in the end more Love can
be present.
This picture reminded me of a time the head of a Longhouse invited me to practice dance
the Raven dance on the main floor.
In me this brought up vulnerability. I walked forward and danced.
This is an indigenous way I have learned, including visitors and guests to participate
or be apart of to feel these big words Welcome and Connection and Worthiness.
Also to refuse would be disrespectful.
In my way of practicing Native rites and rituals, you could say
that there is a lot of vulnerability practices.

My learned stance is one of defense, I assume because of the trauma I was
raised in. So it is a very unnatural position for me to feel comfortable with
vulnerability.

Here is a talk titled vulnerability 20 min.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCvmsMzlF7o

ImthatIm 04-12-2020 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Native spirit
It has been lovely to read thee posts and Listen to the music



Namaste


Please, share your stories and knowledge with us.
I am sure you have many things to tell.
Probably many things that should be told, so that they are shared.
Only with what your comfortable with though, no presure.


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