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Lucky 1 06-12-2018 03:56 PM

This is the best example I've seen of someone making a "self or stick bow" from a single piece of wood using the old ways.

He selects the wood.....uses traditional primitive tools to harvest the wood.....makes multiple lengthwise splits to get the shape....called a stave.....works it down to the basic shape .....then uses a stone scraper to finish it out.

He then show how he gathers bark fiber to weave the string.....gathers more wood and discarded bird feathers for arrows and uses fire to straighten and harden the the arrows.

Finally....demonstrates shooting the bow....even using a traditional draw style....it actually shoots pretty well!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLoukoBs8TE

sentient 06-12-2018 10:00 PM

Excellent find Lucky 1!
He has made other good videos as well:
https://primitivetechnology.wordpress.com/

By the looks of the bush and by the sounds – he lives in Far North Queensland, Australia, so no wonder - he has been inspired by Aborigines and Papua New Guineans, lots of people are - in a way or another. Can’t really escape the influence - - nor the beauty of Nature:
https://www.naturesface.com.au/

Traditional archers tend to see themselves as wilderness protectors.


Looked into your area and the Comanche Warrior History:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyR4KKXgTiE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp9ZTa0waVs

…. “The Comanche had an almost supernatural affinity with the horse”.
They would then have had quite a lot in common with the Tatars, who are the “horse whisperers”.
If anything was wrong with your horse – you didn’t call a vet – you called the Tatar for 'Tatar and the Horse are One'.

A sight for sore eyes too:
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...g?t=1186435193
(The Finnish horseback archer wears a Tatar hat, I noticed).

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sentient 07-12-2018 04:43 PM

I absolutely love horse stories as they - in my mind and imagination reflect our family history story about my/our ancestor - the lone hunter from Far North (Siberia) to (now) North West ‘Russia’.
So of course – the movie Serko (with English subtitles DVD) to me is just the best film ever made:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzl8-FrJ4Q0

Also love the DVD series of:
Quote:

Australian Adventurer Tim Cope ride from Mongolia to Hungary by horse over 10,000km and three and a half years in an attempt to discover the modern say spirit of the nomads, and retrace the empire of Ghengis Khan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAIa...AOODq2&index=3


Is there anything left in Texas continuing with the spirit of Comanche-Horse connection?


Ahh – our beloved horses – very close family members really and the unsung heroes:
https://finnhorseblog.com/2014/09/27...-horse-breeds/

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Lucky 1 07-12-2018 05:59 PM

I'll post some more on this Monday. ...right now im picking my boys up from school for early dismissal and we are loaded up and heading to the ranch for a weekend of deer hunting!

Be back later

sentient 08-12-2018 03:43 AM

Not to worry Lucky 1 - and I don’t even expect you to watch all the videos through, nor read the articles, I just left the links there in case somebody is interested.

Looks like you have got your own horse mounted archery champion there in Texas who also participated in the World Nomad Games.
These “Olympics for nomads” do look a bit like a disorganized mess, but that perhaps is the nomad way.

https://www.archery360.com/2018/10/2...d-nomad-games/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52G8wqIPZbc

https://www.archery360.com/2015/07/0...-on-horseback/

Her blind nocking style:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_UF9TfWNlY

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Other women participants of the games – talking about the spiritual side of archery:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/ga...es-in-pictures

Turkey will host the next World Nomad Games in 2020, which should be interesting, perhaps even creating bigger games out of it.
Turks are very proud of their Asian Turkic-Mongol connections.

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ImthatIm 08-12-2018 07:32 PM

A quick weapon to build, that is an improvement on the spear is the atlatl.

sentient 08-12-2018 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ImthatIm
A quick weapon to build, that is an improvement on the spear is the atlatl.

The spear-throwers were first developed by ‘our’ ancestors – the woolly rhinoceros, the mammoth and other megafauna hunters of the Mammoth Steppe:
https://www.researchgate.net/profile...g-the-late.png

Woolly Mammoth:
https://mk0brilliantmaptxoqs.kinstac...ly_mammoth.png


A beautiful spear thrower made from reindeer antler, sculpted as a mammoth and found in France:
https://archaeosarah.files.wordpress...6-13-06-03.jpg

Replicas of European models:
http://photos.imageevent.com/paleoal...202005.bmp.jpg

How to make one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrlr02YDr5A

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Beringia during the Ice Age:
https://cdn.southampton.ac.uk/assets...h_INLIN E.jpg

(The horses in the above picture look like the wild horses of Mongolia).

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ImthatIm 09-12-2018 02:52 AM

sentient

The youtube vid. right above is exactly what I was referring to. You hit that one right on the head. I loved the way that guy pulled his tinder to use it again with the char.

Easiest pointy weapon to make when in need is the spear. to turbo charge it the atlatl.

sentient 09-12-2018 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImthatIm
The youtube vid. right above is exactly what I was referring to. You hit that one right on the head. I loved the way that guy pulled his tinder to use it again with the char.

Easiest pointy weapon to make when in need is the spear. to turbo charge it the atlatl.

Since I am not familiar with the word “atlatl” – I read that the word comes from Nahuatl i.e. Aztec word meaning “water thrower”(?)
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Aztec soldiers also used it in war against the Spanish invaders in the 1500s AD, because spears thrown using an atlatl could go through Spanish steel armour.

http://www.mexicolore.co.uk/images-6/607_01_2.jpg

Did anybody else use that word? Or is it now generally used in Americas?

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Shaunc 09-12-2018 06:43 AM

The Australian aboriginals hunted with a spear and an atlatl. They referred to the atlatl as a woomera, basically it's an extension of the hunters throwing arm .


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