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Miss Hepburn 24-09-2021 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by eninn
The Inquistion and (Deuteronomy 13: 6-9)

As I said - in all scriptures these things can be found...so there is no real need to bring them up.
I would ask anyone on this Forum ..."Do you believe in or support the above things?"
Th answer will be, No ---except in extreme cases.

By the way ---I am not a Christian or Jew...and do not support many things written by men in the Bible.
As I would never support cruel things written in the Qu'ran...and do not promote or push either.
(Many loving and wise instructions I do support, tho.)

Miss Hepburn 24-09-2021 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by eninn
In the end, the burning of Jews and Muslims was done by the Christian Church
This is what we see today from the occupation of countries and the killing of children, animals and humans
Contrary to Islam, it tolerates the people of countries

You can address this stuff to someone else, since I follow no organized religion.:wink:
I certainly know what the (Catholic, esp) 'Church' has done in the name of the Pope or even Christ.
And we all know in modern times what some Muslims have done; lacking tolerance with bombs and killings.
Religions and scriptures are not perfect...as we all can see.

eninn 24-09-2021 03:49 PM

think, as you wish, this is your opinion,

But it is not the opinion of non-Muslim orientalists
about Islam and the history of Muslims' actions in the countries in which Islam entered.

By Lacy O’Leary
History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping the world is one of the most fantastically absurd myths historians have ever repeated.


A religion which prohibits the killing of women, children, the elderly, monks, animals and which furthermore prohibits the destruction of flora and fauna as well as dwellings in time of war, can only be a religion advocating peace and love of neighbor while being realistic, war is sometimes a necessary evil.

It would be really absurd to consider the resistance fighters, or those who wage a war to defend their homeland, violent or bloodthirsty people for the simple reason that they do not want to live under enemy occupation. In this specific example, it is evident that war is becoming a necessary evil and that not doing so is injustice and a clear lack of love for justice and peace.

And as I told you, do not judge the Qur’an before studying it and knowing the reason for the revelation of the verses

eninn 24-09-2021 03:50 PM

in the bible
they use the title (Far’ah) - that is: Pharaoh - to refer to the kings of ancient Egypt, the same as the king of Egypt in the time of Joseph, peace be upon him, and its king in the time of Moses, peace be upon him. We read - for example - in the Book of Genesis (41:14): “Then Pharaoh sent and called Joseph, and they brought him hastily out of the dungeon: and he shaved himself, and changed his raiment, and came in unto Pharaoh.

And in the story of Moses, peace be upon him,

the governor at the time of Moses is referred to as “pharaoh”:



[]Then the Lord said to Moses, “Go to Pharaoh and say to him, ‘This is what the Lord says: Let my people go, so that they may worship me.
Exodus 8

To other consistent texts describing the King of Egypt as "Pharaoh", regardless of the time in which he lived.

But the Qur’an is the word of God that never makes mistakes, so the Qur’an is very accurate
Moses was not the only prophet who lived in the lands of Egypt in ancient history. The prophet Joseph lived there before him.

We see a certain parallel when reading the stories of Moses and Joseph. When addressing the Egyptian governor during Joseph’s time, the word “malik” is used in the Quran:

“And the king said, "Bring him to me; I will appoint him exclusively for myself." And when he spoke to him, he said, "Indeed, you are today established [in position] and trusted."”. "[Quran, Sura Yousouf 12:54]

On the contrary, the governor at the time of Moses is referred to as “pharaoh”:

“We surely gave Moses nine clear signs.1 ˹You, O Prophet, can˺ ask the Children of Israel. When Moses came to them, Pharaoh said to him, “I really think that you, O Moses, are bewitched.””. "[Quran, Sura Al-Isra 17: 101]

The historical chronicles that are available today show the reason for the different nomenclature of these governors. The word “pharaoh” was originally the name given to the royal palace in ancient Egypt. The governors of the old dynasty did not use this title. The use of the word pharaoh as the title of governor did not begin until the New Kingdom era. This period begins with the 18th dynasty (1532-1292 BC) and the word pharaoh was adopted as a title of respect from the 20th dynasty (945-730 BC).

The miraculous nature of the Qur'an is once again evident: Joseph lived in the days of the Old Kingdom and therefore the word king "malik" was used for the Egyptian governor rather than the "pharaoh". In contrast, as Moses lived in New Kingdom times, the governor of Egypt is called “pharaoh”.

There is no doubt that one has to know the history of Egypt in order to be able to make such a distinction. However, the history of ancient Egypt was completely forgotten from the 4th century onwards as the hieroglyphics could no longer be deciphered and it was not rediscovered until the 19th century. Therefore, there was no in-depth knowledge of Egyptian history when the Quran was revealed

sky 24-09-2021 04:13 PM

[ Quote eninn,
'Because the Bible says to kill the disbeliever, with your hand, even if it be your own flesh and blood.']

As does the Koran, so they are both as bad as one another.......

eninn 24-09-2021 06:26 PM

God says in the Qur’an

Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly. [Al-Mumtahana, 8]

The verse explains to Muslims the method by which they are to deal with non-Muslims
Which is that the non-Muslims who do not fight us,
Nor do they help harm the Muslims
Muslims must treat these people with justice and mercy

eninn 11-10-2021 09:55 PM

Mountains

“Did We not make the earth a resting place? And the mountains as stakes?” (Quran 78:6-7)

The Quran indicates that mountains have deep roots by using the word stakes to describe them. In fact mountains do have deep roots, and the word stakes is an accurate description for them. A book titled ‘Earth’ by Geophysicist Frank Press explains that mountains are like stakes, and are buried deep under the surface of the earth. , the height of which is approximately 9 km above ground, has a root deeper than 125 km.

The fact that mountains have deep ‘stake’ like roots was not known, until after the development of the theory of plate tectonics in the beginning of the 20th century.

eninn 18-10-2021 07:29 AM

Muhammad ibn (son of) Abdullah ibn (son of) Abdul Mutalib, was born on 12 Rabi 'Awwal in the year 570 C.E. (Christian Era) in Makkah, (today: Saudi Arabia) and he died in 633 C.E. in Yathrib (today: Madinah, Saudi Arabia)

In Arabic the word prophet (nabi) is derived from the word naba which means news. Thus we deduce that a prophet spreads the news of God and His message, they are in a sense God’s ambassadors on earth. Their mission is to convey the message to worship One God. This includes, calling the people to God, explaining the message, bringing glad tidings or warnings and directing the affairs of the nation. All the prophets were anxious to convey God’s message sincerely and completely and this included the last prophet, Muhammad. During his final sermon Prophet Muhammad asked the congregation three times whether he had delivered the message, and called on God to witness their answer, which was a resounding “yes!”.

As well as the essence of their call to One God, another accepted sign of the truth of the prophets is how they live their lives. The accounts of Prophet Muhammad’s life that we have inherited from our righteous predecessors illustrate that Muhammad’s Prophethood was guided by God from the very beginning. Long before, Prophethood Muhammad was being prepared to guide humankind to the straight path and his life experiences stood him in good stead for such a weighty mission. Then at the age of 40 when Prophethood was bestowed upon him, God continued to support and affirm his mission. Any account of Muhammad’s life is filled with examples of his exemplary character; he was merciful, compassionate, truthful, brave, and generous, while striving solely for the rewards of the Hereafter. The way Prophet Muhammad dealt with his companions, acquaintances, enemies, animals and even inanimate objects left no doubt that he was ever mindful of God.

Muhammad’s birth was accompanied by many so called miraculous events and the talk of the extraordinary events no doubt functioned as signs of Prophethood,

Special but not unique circumstances surrounded childhood of Prophet Muhammad and these undoubtedly had a bearing on his character. By the time he was eight years old he had suffered through the death of both his parents and his beloved grandfather Abdul Muttalib. He was left in the care of his uncle and great supporter Abu Talib. Thus even as a young boy he had already suffered great emotional and physical upheaval. Both the many chroniclers of Muhammad’s life and the Quran acknowledge his disrupted life.

Did He not find you (O Muhammad) an orphan and gave you a refuge? (Quran 93:6)

Muhammad’s uncle Abu Talib was poor and struggled to keep his family fed, thus during his adolescence Muhammad worked as a shepherd. From this occupation he learned to embrace solitude and developed characteristics such as patience, cautiousness, care, leadership and an ability to sense danger. Shepherding was an occupation that all the prophets of God we know of had in common. ‘…The companions asked, “Were you a shepherd?” He replied, “There was no prophet who was not a shepherd.”’[1]

In his teens Muhammad sometimes travelled with Abu Talib, accompanying caravans to trade centres. On at least one occasion, he is said to have travelled as far north as Syria. Older merchants recognized his character and nicknamed him Al-Amin, the one you can trust. Even in his youth he was known as truthful and trustworthy. One story that is accepted by most Islamic scholars and historians is the account of one of Prophet Muhammad’s trips to Syria.

The story goes that the monk Bahira foretold the coming Prophethood and counselled Abu Talib to “guard his nephew carefully”. According to biographer Ibn Ishaq, as the caravan in which Prophet Muhammad was travelling approached the edge of town, Bahira could see a cloud that appeared to be shading and following a young man. When the caravan halted under the shadow of some trees, Bahira “looked at the cloud when it over-shadowed the tree, and its branches were bending and drooping over the apostle of God until he was in the shadow beneath it.” After Bahira witnessed this he observed Muhammad closely and asked him many questions concerning a number of Christian prophecies he had read and heard about.

The young Muhammad was distinguished among his people for his modesty, virtuous behaviour and graceful manners, thus it was no surprise for his companions to see him, even as a youth many years before Prophethood, shun superstitious practices and keep away from drinking alcohol, eating meat slaughtered on stone altars or attending idolatrous festivals. By the time he reached adulthood Muhammad was thought of as the most reliable and trustworthy member of the Meccan community. Even those who concerned themselves with petty tribal squabbles acknowledged Muhammad’s honesty and integrity.

Muhammad’s virtues and good moral character was established from a young age, and God continued to support and guide him. When he was 40 years old Muhammad was given the means to change the world, the means to benefit the whole of humanity


THE SEAL OF ALL THE PROPHETS MUHAMMAD PBUH - Muhammad Abdul Jabbar
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YouTube


The greatest man to ever walk the earth - YouTube

eninn 26-10-2021 11:28 AM

Pain Receptors

For a long time it was thought that the sense of feeling and pain was dependent on the brain. However it has been discovered that there are pain receptors present in the skin[. Without these pain receptors, a person would not be able to feel pain.

Consider the following verse on pain:

“We shall send those who reject Our revelations to the (Hell) Fire. When their skins have been burned away, We shall replace them with new ones so that they may continue to feel the pain: God is Almighty, All-Wise.” (Quran 4:56)

God tells the people who reject his message that when they are in Hell and their skins are burnt off (so they can’t feel any pain), he will give them new skins so that they continue to feel the pain.

The Quran makes it clear that pain is dependent upon on the skin. The discovery of pain receptors in the skin is a fairly recent discovery for Biology.

Islam and Modern Science - Human Aspect - Skin & Sensation - Part 1 of 5
YouTube

رحلة حمزة لاعتناق الإسلام والصعوبات التي واجهها وإجاباته على أسئلتكم YouTube
لماذا الخلود في النار؟ امراة تسأل وصبور يجيب YouTube

eninn 03-11-2021 12:01 PM

Allah the name of God

actually Allah is the name itself of The Most Supreme Creator, the Lord of the worlds which is also uniquely synonymous too since with this word Allah by all semetic religions (see video below for proofs) was referred only to the Creator of the worlds which did not need much explanation even to the pagan Arabs because they have been using right from the days of Prophet Ishmael, the son of Prophet Abraham who built the kaaba from 5000 years ago

As seen in this verse of Quran 29:61 which is addressed to the idolators and pagans of Arabia

“If you asked them, "Who created the heavens and earth and subjected the sun and the moon?" they would surely say, " Allah ." Then how are they deluded?”

So this proves Allah was also synonymous but only to the Supreme power and not to other gods as they had many gods whom the pagans worshipped. The Quran sura 112 introduced Allah again to the pagans in the right precise sense since they had started to forget the pure nature of Allah that was taught to them by Prophet Abraham though they were using the name of Allah even before the coming of Quran since Prophets Muhammad ﷺ's father name was Abdullah or Servant of Allah. Another incident that substantiates this claim is when the incident of the year of the elephant took place the pagans stopped to worship all idols for about 7 years only worshipping Allah, the Lord of the Kaaba.

The name Abdullah means submission and servitude to allah alone
So that's why when some translate the Allah as God during shahada or testimony to embrace Islam they read a
“there is no God but Allah and Muhammad PBUH is Messenger of Allah “

And this verse from 17:110 also reiterates the same, note that Allah calls himself as Allah and not just ilah in this verse
“Say, "Call upon Allah or call upon the Most Merciful. Whichever [name] you call - to Him belong the best names." And do not recite [too] loudly in your prayer or [too] quietly but seek between that an [intermediate] way.”

since the pagans did have many gods who they thought as powerful to save them help them but they also worshiped Allah whom they believed as the Ultimate Creator of the world. But still rebellious or idiotic enough to associate daughters to Allah whom they thought as Angels and partners to Allah the bogus statues of dead Saints. Since the word God in English can be misused to refer multiple gods or masculine or feminine ie Goddess etc Muslims call Allah to show that they mean the God of the pure Monotheist Prophet Abraham since the word Allah cannot be used in multiple sense nor refers any gender.

Elohim El, Elah, Alah
In the Bible, God is very often referred to as ‘Elohim’ in the Hebrew language. The ‘im’ in the ending is a plural of honour and God is referred to as ‘El’ or ‘Elah’ in the English Bible with commentary, edited by reverend C. I. Scofield. ‘Elah’ is alternatively spelled as ‘Alah’. The difference in spelling is only of a single ‘L’. Muslims spell Allah as ‘Allah’ while the Reverend has spelled it as Alah and they pronounce it as ‘Elah’. Muslims pronounce it as Allah. Hebrew and Arabic are sister languages therefore we say it should be pronounced as ‘Allah’ and not as ‘Elah’.

The video will show how Allah was used by all semetic religions.
Ahmed Deedat Answer - Where was the word 'ALLAH' lost by Jews and Christians? youtube

eninn 08-11-2021 08:11 AM

The Ocean

The Quran uses imagery to covey its deep meanings, here it describes the state of the unbelievers as:

“Darkness out in a deep ocean which is covered by waves, above which are waves, above which are clouds, layers of darkness, one upon the other. When one puts out his hand [therein], he can hardly see it. Those God gives no light to, they have no light.” (Quran 24:40)

It is commonly thought that waves only occur on the surface of the ocean. However oceanographers have discovered that there are internal waves that take place below the surface of the ocean. These waves are invisible to the human eye, and can only be detected by specialist equipment[8]. The Quran mentions darkness in a deep ocean above which are waves, above which are waves, then clouds above that.

This description is not only remarkable because it describes the internal waves in the ocean, but also because it describes darkness deep in the ocean. A human being can dive no more than 70 metres without breathing equipment. Light is present at that depth, but if we go down 1000 metres it is completely dark[9]. 1400 years ago there were no submarines or specialist equipment to discover internal waves or the darkness deep inside the oceans.

Qur'an And Science, Darkness In the Ocean - Dr Zaghloul Al-Nagar youtube



MIRACLES OF THE QUR'AN DARKNESS IN THE SEAS AND INTERNAL WAVES www harunyahya com youtube

BigJohn 15-11-2021 03:03 PM

Nice comment on Elohim.

eninn 15-11-2021 08:15 PM

Sun’s Orbit

In 1512 the astronomer Nicholas Copernicus put forward his theory that the Sun is motionless at the centre of the solar system, and that the planets revolve around it. The belief that the Sun is stationary was widespread amongst astronomers until the 20th century. It is now a well-established scientific fact that the Sun is not stationary, but is moving in an orbit around the centre of our Milky Way galaxy

The Quran mentions the orbit of the Sun:

“It is He who created night and day, the Sun and the Moon, each floating in its orbit.” (Quran 21:33)

The Quran would have been wrong according to astronomers just a couple of decades ago. But we now know that the Quranic account of the Sun’s motion is consistent with modern Astronomy.

Qur'an confirmed by Bible Scholar youtube

eninn 17-11-2021 11:38 PM

the Universe

At a time when the science of Astronomy was still primitive, the expansion of the universe was described in Quran:

“And it is We who have built the Universe with [Our creative] power and keep expanding it.” (Quran 51:47)

The fact that the universe is expanding was discovered in the last century. The physicist Stephen Hawking in his book ‘A Brief History of Time’ writes, “The discovery that the universe is expanding was one of the great intellectual revolutions of the 20th century.”.

The Quran mentioned the expansion of the universe even before the invention of the telescope!

The expansion of universe according to Quran-Dr.Zaghloul Al Najjar youtube


Creation and expansion of the universe mentioned in the quran .wmv youtube

sky 18-11-2021 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eninn
the Universe
At a time when the science of Astronomy was still primitive, the expansion of the universe was described in Quran:

And also in the Bible :smile:

eninn 18-11-2021 01:01 PM

Are there any scientific errors in the Bible? Dr. Zakir Naik answers youtube

Miss Hepburn 18-11-2021 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eninn
Are there any scientific errors in the Bible? Dr. Zakir Naik answers youtube

Well, I believe there are scientific errors from Scientists!!! :biggrin:

eninn 19-11-2021 06:55 PM

It is true that there are scientific errors on the part of scientists during observation and experiment to prove the theory in the beginning
to be correct in the end

But there is undoubtedly the unanimity and agreement of all scholars, from a scientific and historical point of view, on the errors and distortions of the books of some religions.

eninn 19-11-2021 06:56 PM

Mountains

The Quran draws our attention to a very important characteristic of mountains:

“Did We not make the earth a resting place? And the mountains as stakes?” (Quran 78:6-7)

The Quran indicates that mountains have deep roots by using the word stakes to describe them. In fact mountains do have deep roots, and the word stakes is an accurate description for them. A book titled ‘Earth’ by Geophysicist Frank Press explains that mountains are like stakes, and are buried deep under the surface of the earth. , the height of which is approximately 9 km above ground, has a root deeper than 125 km.

The fact that mountains have deep ‘stake’ like roots was not known, until after the development of the theory of plate tectonics in the beginning of the 20th century.
"the Quran miracles" The formation of mountains(1/3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUaxHUsne7I
"the Quran miracles" The formation of mountains(2/3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHIjPl0EfT0

eninn 22-11-2021 06:39 AM

Sky’s Protection

The sky plays a crucial role in protecting the earth. The sky protects the earth from the lethal rays of the sun. If the sky did not exist then the sun’s radiation would have killed off all life on earth. It also acts like a blanket wrapped around the earth, to protect it from the freezing cold of space. The temperature just above the sky is approximately -270oC. If this temperature was to reach earth then the planet would freeze over instantly. The sky also protects life on earth by warming the surface through heat retention (greenhouse effect), and reducing temperature extremes between day and night[5]. These are some of the many protective functions of the sky.

The Quran asks us to consider the sky in the following verse:

“We made the sky a protective ceiling. And yet they are turning away from Our signs!” (Quran 21:32)

The Quran points to the sky’s protection as a sign of God. The protective properties of the sky were discovered by scientific research conducted in the 20th century.

Scientific Facts in the Qur'an: SKY'S Protection
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H5bH97m5IY

The Scientific Miracles of the Qur'an (Perfection of the Creation of the Sky)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj_rCiw9jnc

eninn 29-11-2021 08:12 AM

Iron

Iron is not natural to the earth. It did not form on the earth but came down to earth from outer space. This may sound strange but it’s true. Scientists have found that billions of years ago the earth was stuck by meteorites. These meteorites were carrying Iron from distant stars which had exploded[4].

The Quran says the following on the origin of Iron:

“We sent down Iron with its great inherent strength and its many benefits for humankind.” (Quran 57:25)

God uses the words ‘sent down’ for Iron. It is clear from the verse that Iron is not an earthly material, but was sent down for the benefit of humanity. The fact that Iron came down to earth from outer space is something which could not be known by the primitive science of the 7th century.

Islamic Miracle, Quran Iron Core Miracles معجزات القرآن الكريم
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUA0EGTGFtg

eninn 01-12-2021 08:36 PM

Iron is one of the elements highlighted in the Qur'an. In Surat al-Hadid, meaning Iron, we are informed:

And We also sent down iron in which there lies great force and which has many uses for mankind… (Qur'an, 57:25)

Surat al-Hadid is the 57th in the Qur’an. The numerical value of the word “al-Hadid” in Arabic is 57. The numerical value of “hadid” on its own is 26. As can be seen from the periodic table to the side, 26 is the number of the iron atom. With the verse revealed in Surat al-Hadid Almighty Allah indicates how iron formed, and with the mathematical code contained in the verse He reveals to us a scientific miracle.

All this shows that iron did not form on the Earth, but was carried from Supernovas, and was "sent down," as stated in the verse. It is clear that this fact could not have been known in the 7th century, when the Qur'an was revealed. Nevertheless, this fact is related in the Qur'an, the Word of Allah, Who encompasses all things in His infinite knowledge.

Astronomy has also revealed that other elements also formed outside the Earth. In the expression "We also sent down iron" in the verse, the word "also" may well be referring to that idea. However, the fact that the verse specifically mentions iron is quite astounding, considering that these discoveries were made at the end of the 20th century. In his book Nature's Destiny, the well-known microbiologist Michael Denton emphasizes the importance of iron:

Of all the metals there is none more essential to life than iron. It is the accumulation of iron in the center of a star which triggers a supernova explosion and the subsequent scattering of the vital atoms of life throughout the cosmos. It was the drawing by gravity of iron atoms to the center of the primeval earth that generated the heat which caused the initial chemical differentiation of the earth, the outgassing of the early atmosphere, and ultimately the formation of the hydrosphere. It is molten iron in the center of the earth which, acting like a gigantic dynamo, generates the earth's magnetic field, which in turn creates the Van Allen radiation belts that shield the earth's surface from destructive high-energy-penetrating cosmic radiation and preserve the crucial ozone layer from cosmic ray destruction…

Without the iron atom, there would be no carbon-based life in the cosmos; no supernovae, no heating of the primitive earth, no atmosphere or hydrosphere. There would be no protective magnetic field, no Van Allen radiation belts, no ozone layer, no metal to make hemoglobin [in human blood], no metal to tame the reactivity of oxygen, and no oxidative metabolism.

The intriguing and intimate relationship between life and iron, between the red color of blood and the dying of some distant star, not only indicates the relevance of metals to biology but also the biocentricity of the cosmos…41

This account clearly indicates the importance of the iron atom. The fact that particular attention is drawn to iron in the Qur'an also emphasises the importance of the element. In addition, there is another hidden truth in the Qur'an which draws attention to the importance of iron: Surat al-Hadid 25, which refers to iron, contains two rather interesting mathematical codes.

"Al- Hadid" is the 57th sura in the Qur'an. The abjad of the word "Al-Hadid" in Arabic, when the numerological values of its letters are added up, is also 57. (For abjad calculations see the section on Numerological Calculations (Abjad) in the Qur'an.)

The numerological value of the word "hadid" alone is 26. And 26 is the atomic number of iron.

Moreover, iron oxide particles were used in a cancer treatment in recent months and positive developments were observed. A team led by Dr. Andreas Jordan, at the world famous Charité Hospital in Germany, succeeded in destroying cancer cells with this new technique developed for the treatment of cancer-magnetic fluid hyperthermia (high temperature magnetic liquid). As a result of this technique, first performed on the 26-year-old Nikolaus H., no new cancer cells were observed in the patient in the following three months.

This method of treatment can be summarised as follows:

1. A liquid containing iron oxide particles is injected into the tumour by means of a special syringe. These particles spread throughout the tumour cells. This liquid consists of thousands of millions of particles, 1,000 times smaller than the red blood corpuscles, of iron oxide in 1 cm3 that can easily flow through all blood vessels.42

2. The patient is then placed in a machine with a powerful magnetic field.

3. This magnetic field, applied externally, begins to set the iron particles in the tumour in motion. During this time the temperature in the tumour containing the iron oxide particles rises by up to 45 degrees.

In a few minutes the cancer cells, unable to protect themselves from the heat, are either weakened or destroyed. The tumour may then be completely eradicated with subsequent chemotherapy.43

In this treatment it is only the cancer cells that are affected by the magnetic field, since only they contain the iron oxide particles. The spread of this technique is a major development in the treatment of this potentially lethal disease. In the treatment of such a widespread disease as cancer, the use of the expression "iron in which there lies great force and which has many uses for mankind" (Qur'an, 57:25) in the Qur'an is particularly noteworthy. Indeed, in that verse, the Qur'an may be indicating the benefits of iron for human health. (Allah knows be

eninn 04-12-2021 01:43 PM

Iron is one of the elements highlighted in the Qur'an. There is even a chapter named "al-Hadid", which means "iron".
The following is stated in verse 25 of the chapter of al-Hadid:

"And We also sent down iron in which there lies great force and which has many uses for mankind." (al-Hadid, 25)

The word "anzalna", used for the formation of iron in the verse means "we sent down". However, what we know is that the iron is dug out from the underground. In our opinion, "we dug out" should have been preferred instead of "we sent down". However, the situation is not as what we think. With the expression "we sent down" in the verse, a very important scientific miracle is pointed out.
It is as follows: For the formation of the mineral of iron, a certain temperature is needed.

This necessary temperature exists neither in the earth nor in the sun. The sun has a surface temperature of 6.000 degrees Celsius, and a core temperature of approximately 15 million degrees. However, this temperature is inadequate for the formation of iron. Iron can only be produced in stars much larger than the Sun, where the temperature reaches a few hundred million degrees. When the amount of iron exceeds a certain level in stars called a "nova" or a "supernova", the star can no longer accommodate it, and it eventually explodes. These explosions make it possible for iron to be dispersed into space. All astronomic discoveries have put forth that the mineral of iron comes from huge stars of outer space.


Not only the iron in the earth but also the iron in the solar system is acquired from outer space. For, as we have stated before, the temperature of the sun is not enough for the formation of the iron mineral. What is understood from all above is that the mineral of iron is not formed in the earth but sent down by being carried away from supernovas just as it is stated in the verse.
It is not possible for this knowledge to be known in the age when the Qur'an was revealed, that is, 1400 years ago.

Since it is not possible, how can it be explained that this information exists in the Qur'an?
Is there any explanation other than the fact that the Qur'an is the book of Allah?


Besides, it has been mentioned in the verse that the iron has many benefits for humans. However, people used the iron only to make swords at the time when this verse was revealed and did not know other benefits of the iron. Despite this, the Qur'an stated, "it has many benefits for mankind".

christian scientist confirm Quran is true!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOYpjZywUPA

Scientists amazed (1 of 2) by Quran's scientific facts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGbQvx4Ej_k

Scientists amazed (2 of 2) by Quran's scientific facts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K15WK0WTBMg

Iron In The Quran
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaLNFvR17Hk

MAYA EL 05-12-2021 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eninn
You are only affected by fake news about Muslims in the media
And some misguided groups who attribute themselves to Islam, like ISIS, kill Muslims and non-Muslims
Not to mention the agents from the East who have affiliated with the West to ruin the reputation of Islam and Muslim countries.

It seems to be a context issue like with most religions
But that's because most religions are in languages that are not spoken anymore and so the scholars have to assume the meaning of what was written and then interpret it with their opinion and then the rabbis and pastors do the same thing once it trickles down to them and their denominations that separate out whether that be as long or any of the other abrahamic religions and so much interpretation is needed that it's possible to interpret your book in such a way that people will strap bombs to themselves blow themselves up and try to take over the entire planet while you say it's peaceful now this very well may be the case because of context.

Now you should ask yourself why would they all creator allow the words used to be so misunderstood that they require so much interpretation that they can be manipulated in so many dramatic different directions?. I know you won't ask yourself that question because you're invested but maybe somebody will.

MAYA EL 05-12-2021 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by eninn
Iron is not natural to the earth. It did not form on the earth but came down to earth from outer space. \Scientists have found that billions of years ago the earth was stuck by meteorites. These meteorites were carrying Iron from distant stars which had exploded[4].

The iron that is mined on Earth is mostly from banded iron formation from geochemical leeching of basalts and subsequent sedimentary depositing of the iron oxides in anoxic ocean beds

infact as a kid I used to play on a big hill that was pure iron ore Rocks and the reason iron ore Rock does not look like iron that's been manufactured is because you have to melt it down and iron oxidizes to rust hence the red color iron or rocks have however you melt one down you get iron.

both the Earth's*inner*and*outer core that account for 35% of the mass of the whole Earth, (that's land and ocean bed I E the entire planet) is believed to consist largely of an iron alloy, possibly with nickel or something like that.

I have slightly edited my reply so that certain people that don't like me for whatever reason won't censor me so much.

eninn 06-12-2021 06:56 AM

Origin of Life

Water is essential for all living things. We all know that water is vital to life but the Quran makes a very unusual claim:

We made every living thing from water? Will they not believe? (Quran 21:30)

In this verse water is pointed out as the origin of all life. All living things are made of cells. We now know that cells are mostly made up of water[3]. For example, 80% of the cytoplasm (basic cell material) of a standard animal cell is described as water in biology textbooks.

The fact that living things consist mostly of water was discovered only after the invention of the microscope. In the deserts of Arabia, the last thing someone would have guessed is that all life came from water.

المسلمون يفوتهم الكثير من المتعة - حوار حمزة مع زائر لديه فضول للتعرف على الإسلام
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgTHgWByzfk

اسكت! _ مسلم عملاق يزلزل ثلاثة أشخاص ~ محمد حجاب ~ Speaker's corner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAxQ-fM_Joc

eninn 13-12-2021 11:16 AM

أثبت لي أن عيسى هو المسيح الذي سيأتي في آخر الزمان! عدنان رشيد في حوار مع زائر
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5C8HdUJ6Lo

الداعية الأمريكي خالد ياسين يتحدى الإعلام - مترجم - Khalid Yasin's Challenge to the Media
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92jumF7cXyw

فتحت الإنجيل والقرآن عشوائيًا - النتيجة غير متوقعة
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lldNZGKhdho

لماذا من العدل أن يُقتل إنساناً بريئاً؟ حوار هاشم مع مسيحيين
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED3tHQjkQNs

أمريكية من طائفة شهود يهوه كانت تظن أنها

على الحق الكامل حتى عرفت الإسلام
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4oxGm2qOkg

eninn 13-12-2021 05:46 PM

Dr.Zakir Naik - Islam The Solution For Problems of Mankind (Full

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tisakg5UTH4

Miss Hepburn 14-12-2021 01:52 AM

I have seen many youtubes posted here on this topic.
Many.
None have impressed me. But I learned more in 15 min of this one so far than anything else
anyone has said so far. And I will see it thru to the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6NWfVWxqSM

eninn 14-12-2021 11:32 AM

The Sun and Moon.

the Qur’an distinguishes between them by the use of different terms: light (noor) for the moon, and lamp (siraaj) for the sun.

“Did you see how Allah created seven heavens, one above the other, and made in them the moon a light and the sun a lamp?” Qur’an, 78:12-13

The moon is an inert body which reflects light, whereas the sun is a celestial body in a state of permanent combustion producing both light and heat.
Stars and Planets

The word ‘star’ (najm) in the Qur’an ( 86:3 ) is accompanied by the adjective thaaqib which indicates that it burns and consumes itself as it pierces through the shadows of the night. It was much later discovered that stars are heavenly bodies producing their own light like the sun.

In the Qur’an, a different word, kawkab, is used to refer to the planets which are celestial bodies that reflect light and do not produce their own light like the sun.

“We have adorned the lowest heaven with ornaments, the planets.” Qur’an, 37:6

Amazing Miracle of Reflected Light of the Moon in the quran Koran

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBFp3Qe4r74

Rotation of the sun and expansion of the universe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1gqGAn8y4Q

Miss Hepburn 14-12-2021 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by eninn
Iron
Islamic Miracle, Quran Iron Core Miracles معجزات القرآن الكريم
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUA0EGTGFtg

After seeing many youtubes you have posted this is, imo, the best.
Easy to listen to, slower.

I get the point...ie, It must have been God Himself that gave so much information 1400 yrs ago,
unknown to us for centuries later.

I also understand from my youtube link with Garry Wills, 2 posts back, Yale grad, Pulitzer Prize winner,
excellent researcher and but, now 87, most critics of the Islam faith
have never read the Koran.
It seems to be common to judge many many things without knowing
firsthand anything about the subject!
For decades I have seen this phenomenon.


* Garry Wills book: ''What the Qur'an Meant: And Why It Matters'', 2017

eninn 20-12-2021 07:37 AM

The Day and Night
The Qur’anic description of the sequence of day and night would, in itself, be rather commonplace were it not for the fact that it is expressed in terms that are today highly appropriate. The Qur’an uses the verb kawwara in chapter az-Zumar to describe the way the night ‘winds’ or ‘coils’ itself around the day and the day around the night.
“He coils the night upon the day and the day upon the night.” Qur’an, 39:5
The original meaning of the verb kis to coil a turban around the head. This is a totally valid comparison; yet at the time the Qur’an was revealed, the astronomical data necessary to make this comparison were unknown. and observed the earth spinning on its axis, that the dark half of the globe appeared to wind itself around the light and the light half appeared to wind itself around the dark.


"the Quran miracles" The alternation between day & night(1/3)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFoGX49QzLg

"the Quran miracles" The alternation between day & night (2/3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_1TM-Y2lUA

eninn 20-12-2021 07:38 AM

The Quran has been memorized
Because God saved the Quran from changing
The predicate is connected
And the writers of the Quran are known generation after generation

If one refers to the teachings of the Quran, he descended directly on Muhammad through the intermediary of the Angel Gabriel (Jibril in Arabic), who received him from Almighty God (Allah) and who then recited to Muhammad, fragment by fragment, verse by verse, thus revealing small and large parts over a period of 23 years.

The assembly and order of verses that we know today have never been altered by Muhammad. It was Jibril, the Angel of Allah, who gave the instructions on how to order the verses with each revelation of the Quran.

"If Muhammad could not read or write, then his friends had to write the Quran (like the Bible), right? "

NO ! Again, they didn't have to write it down to keep it, even though they did. They all memorized it completely after hearing it.

Some of them wrote it on animal skins, others on large stones or palm leaves, because the Prophet Muhammad had asked them to do so.

So, they wrote down what they heard and this is the written form of the Quran. They all memorized the Quran for themselves and transmitted it the same way they received it.

The “word of mouth” method of memorizing is still in effect among Muslims today.

"Could they have misinterpreted or is it possible that they modified, added or deleted verses from the Quran? "

No, Allah tells us in the Koran itself: "If you doubt it, bring a similar book". So we see that, yes, it is a book. But this is no ordinary book, written by humans, and that's what we need to remember here.

Now is your opportunity to verify your statements, just as the Quran itself authenticates its statements:

The strongest evidence that the Quran is not (and will not be) distorted is that Allaah The Exalted challenged His creation to produce the likes of it; then He challenged them to produce ten chapters only and finally challenged them to produce even a single chapter. Today, this challenge remains open. If the Quran is fabricated, why can they not even produce a single chapter and defeat their enemy?

So far, no one has been able to produce anything close to the Qur'an in its beauty, style, meaning and prophecies. Scientific evidence makes the Qur'an the most talked about book in today's intellectual world.

1,500-year-old Quran manuscript may be oldest known copy

Recently radiocarbon dated copy of the 7th century Quran at the University of Birmingham.

A 1,500-year-old parchment may be one of the oldest known copies of the Quran, possibly dating to a time that straddled the life of the Prophet Muhammad, according to researchers who recently dated the fragments of the manuscript.

The text was radiocarbon dated, which measured the age of organic materials from the find. Researchers at the University of Birmingham, UK, found that the sheets of parchment dated back to AD 568 and AD 645.

Susan Worrall, director of special collections at the University of Birmingham, said in a statement.
"Radiocarbon dating has delivered an exciting result, which contributes significantly to our understanding of the earliest written copies of the Quran",

The Prophet Muhammad is said to have lived between AD 570 and 632 and, according to Muslim tradition, he received the revelations that make up the Quran between AD 610 and 632.


"The above observation makes the hypothesis advanced by those who see Muhammad as the author of the Qur'an untenable. How could a man, from being illiterate, become the most important author, in terms of literary merits, in the whole of Arabic literature? How could he then pronounce truths of a scientific nature that no other human being could possibly have developed at that time, and all this without once making the slightest error in his pronouncement on the subject?"
Maurice Bucaille, THE BIBLE, THE QUR'AN AND SCIENCE, 1978, p. 125.
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Oldest version of the Quran at the University of Birmingham - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUSLHTqYWmE

eninn 21-12-2021 07:18 AM

كيف تم حفظ القرآن؟ - إيبيستيميكس 9 مع عدنان رشيد
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20pcjxfpe9U

Miss Hepburn 21-12-2021 05:04 PM

post 75
 
I don't see why this is here --it is 20 min of talking about those that
memorize the entire Quran...so?

eninn 21-12-2021 06:12 PM

The skin burning sensation is carried to the brain by nerves. However if the nerve endings at outer skin is damaged no signals would be carried to the brain, hence no burning sensation is felt.
The Quran says that those who will burn in hell their skins will be replaced with new ones every time it is roasted so that they may feel the pain:

How could an illiterate man who lived 1400 years ago have known that only outer skin can feel burning?

It was thought that the sense of feeling and pain was dependent only on the brain. Recent discoveries however prove that there are pain receptors present in the skin, without which a person would not be able to feel pain.

When a doctor examines a patient suffering from burn injuries, he verifies the degree of burns by a pinprick. If the patient feels pain, the doctor is happy, because it indicates that the burns are superficial and the pain receptors are intact. On the other hand, if the patient does not feel any pain, it indicates that it is a deep burn and the pain receptors have been destroyed.

The Qur’an gives a clear indication of the existence of pain receptors in the following verse:
“Those who reject our signs, We shall soon cast into the Fire; as often as their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for fresh skins, that they may taste the Penalty: for Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.” [Al-Qur’an-Surah An-Nisa- 4:56]


Prof. Tagatat Tejasen, Chairman of the Department of Anatomy at Chiang Mai University in Thailand, has spent a great amount of time on research of pain receptors. Initially he could not believe that the Qur’an mentioned this scientific fact 1,400 years ago. He later verified the translation of this particular Qur’anic verse. Prof. Tejasen was so impressed by the scientific accuracy of the Qur’anic verse, that at the 8th Saudi Medical Conference held in Riyadh on the Scientific Signs of Qur’an and Sunnah, he proudly proclaimed in public:

“There is no God but Allah and Muhammad (pbuh) is His Messenger.”

Pain Receptors in the Quran - Dr Zakir Naik

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r11PkGHSf50

eninn 21-12-2021 06:24 PM

Pain Receptors in the Quran - Dr Zakir Naik

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r11PkGHSf50

lostsoul13 22-12-2021 10:53 PM

The fact is people will age it’s a great notation… seeing the beginning of time would have that affect on any body… it’s amazing _ great thread… to be in the glory - you would think the desires would be over come… and result in some abnormalities like such… youth is a grace… it’s earned through reincarnation…

eninn 23-12-2021 11:31 AM

The Message of Jesus

The Prophets of the Old Testament such as Abraham, Noah and Jonah never preached that God is part of a Trinity, and did not believe in Jesus as their saviour. Their message was simple: there is one God and He alone deserves your worship. It doesn’t make sense that God sent Prophets for thousands of years with the same essential message, and then all of a sudden he says he is in a Trinity and that you must believe in Jesus to be saved.

The truth is that Jesus preached the same message that the Prophets in the Old Testament preached. There is a passage in the Bible which really emphasizes his core message. A man came to Jesus and asked “Which is the first commandment of all?”Jesus answered, “The first of all the commandments is Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.’’[Mark 12:28-29]. So the greatest commandment, the most important belief according to Jesus is that God is one. If Jesus was God he would have said ‘I am God, worship me’, but he didn’t. He merely repeated a verse from the Old Testament confirming that God is One.

Some people claim that Jesus came to die for the sins of the world. But consider the following statement of Jesus: This is eternal life: to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you sent. I have glorified you on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do.[John 17:3-4].

Jesus in Islam

The Islamic belief about Jesus demystifies for us who the real Jesus was. Jesus in Islam was an extraordinary individual, chosen by God as a Prophet and sent to the Jewish people. He never preached that he himself was God or the actual son of God. He was miraculously born without a father, and he performed many amazing miracles such as healing the blind and the lepers and raising the dead – all by God’s permission. Muslims believe that Jesus will return before the day of Judgement to bring justice and peace to the world. This Islamic belief about Jesus is similar to the belief of some of the early Christians. In the Quran, God addresses the Christians about Jesus in the following way:

O People of the Book, do not commit excesses in your religion, and do not say anything about God except the truth: the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was nothing more than a messenger of God, His word, directed to Mary and a spirit from Him. So believe in God and His Messengers and do not speak of a ‘Trinity’– stop [this], that is better for you– God is only one God, He is far above having a son, everything in the heavens and earth belongs to Him and He is the best one to trust. [4:171]

Islam is not just another religion. It is the same message preached by Moses, Jesus and Abraham. Islam literally means ‘submission to God’ and it teaches us to have a direct relationship with God. It reminds us that since God created us, no one should be worshipped except God alone. It also teaches that God is nothing like a human being or like anything that we can imagine. The concept of God is summarized in the Quran as:

“Say, He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He does not give birth, nor was He born, and there is nothing like Him.” (Quran 112:1-4)[4]

Becoming a Muslim is not turning your back to Jesus. Rather it’s going back to the original teachings of Jesus and obeying him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUA2Ln4jsEM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpdrcQ55Zxw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z29jFDmkoEc

sky 23-12-2021 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by eninn
The Message of Jesus

Islam is not just another religion. It is the same message preached by Moses, Jesus and Abraham.


I personally disagree so can we agree to differ..... :smile:


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