Well, I don’t know either … shapeshifting?
Ha!
Found this:

More on the subject:
https://books.google.com.au/books?id...manism&f=false

Of course, stories of shapeshifting had always been told. Ours being about turning into Wolves and/or Bears. (The most common of these stories were, when a bear had been killed, they found a medicine pouch around its neck).

I suspect this kind of “Wolf Shamanism” also has to do with disappearing/reappearing … disappearing into a tree or any object, teleportation, bi-location … floating up to the tree tops … (our famous shaman also did, written even in court records … because he was frequently arrested for being a vagrant, heh, his feats then causing such a mayhem).
Only lesser shamen took Fly Agaric, they say ....

And I suspect it has got to do with the “Magical Cords” coming from one’s navel area (those that look like sun-rays or like a spider-web filaments):
https://www.dhushara.com/book/genaro/genaro.htm

I mean. We knew about it, Aborigines were/are experts in this … and since this has also been written about Huichols, cultures that did not know anything about each other ……………………

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I know this is a far cry from NAC Peyote Ceremonies …. but they for Westernern imagination do seem to hold a great appeal.

Apparently now also - one can become a shaman (having lived a journey of a shaman) i.e. "by selling drugs at 12, taking steroids, sniffing a lot of cocaine, a couple of years in prison … then doing retreats with ayahuasca, bufo, kambo" …..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lld8KpTW8RA

Oh, my ….

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sentient
Post #801 has a lot I will have to go over and digest.

Now your vid. in #802 all I can say is Danger, Danger.
I find that kind of treatment and use of medicines scary and disrespectful.
But hey what do I know?
I never seem to be amazed at what people will do next.

I imagine some seek recognition for that purpose.
I do know that $..Casino..$ building is a bigger reason.


It was Ironic that I seen Duwamish on the unrecognized list.
https://www.duwamishtribe.org/


My first Native teacher was part Duwamish.

I hate using the word teacher, since He was a friend but teacher will do.
Anyway, the city of Seattle named after Chief Sealth was basically built on Duwamish land.
My friend looked exactly like Chief Sealth and was a descendant.

Bird Medicine and the Art of Feathers with Ernesto Olmos 11:05mins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps2fJBakUzg

I don’t think the indian hobbyists dressing up and doing pow wows see what they are doing as disrespectful. I think they see it as honouring the spirit of the Indian.

Similarly, the drug pushers, now born-again non-native ‘shaman-priests' no doubt see themselves as genuine too, providing a service.

Even though what looks like a wholesome South American native practice to me, not every native in Americas seem to agree with the NAC.
But that is none-of-my-business.

But I would imagine psychedelics could have a role in treatment of mental disorders, so perhaps they should be researched properly.

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Watched a few videos on tribal disenrollments … and difficulties of some to enrol …
Heart-wrenching stories.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxRwGcDh_-Y

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Thank you for this thread ImthatIm. This has been a bit of a learning curve.

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Lovely South American wind instruments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzoiL7x56Eo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXnFsU7jxbw
Didn't we all have clay-whistles as kids?

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Ouchie!!
Unfortunately I know about divisions in families and cliques.

Whoa.
Very impressive sounds. I am highly interested and will be searching out more
of this type of ear candy.:smile:
I have always liked the pan-flute also.

Thanks you too, I like staying on the curve.:smile: