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So the planet was physical, but the people native to it outside the bubble/dome and you yourself were non-physical? Sorry if I ask too much questions. |
Never can ask to many questions Slayer.
The planet was a physical place, dirt, gray clouds, no sun. The issue was no distractions for the murmurers (except me). The people there were not native. They were placed there just like I was. Call it a place to go when you die. In their case they just needed to be narcissistic and fit into a tight clan with their rigid rules and 'safety in numbers'. It's where they were in their evolution. I'd say they were very young souls which had incarnated some, but not a lot. Not a good thing, not a bad thing, it just Was. See, the whole point is, we have endless time. Time to learn every lesson to the minutest detail. Then we move on to the next lesson. They were there to murmur/gossip, I was there to be left alone (except their pesky visits) and to think. |
In the astral realm you can create what ever you want. A house with a lawn in the front, the lawn will not grow, or you can have a cup of tea, and pretend to drink it but you will not get the sensation you will get in this realm.
Even so we call those realms non physical, they are technically physical, just less so. |
Very nice thread...really have enjoyed the thoughts, sentiments, and experiences shared.
Peace & blessings all :hug3: 7L |
It seems to me that most human beings practice some type of high risk suicidal behavior regularly, even though they may not think of themselves as being suicidal, still they may have a secret, or subconscious, death wish in practicing such behaviors.
Driving recklessly or with road rage, smoking and ingesting other known carcinogens, injecting heroine or taking other deadly substances, thrill seeking, and a host of other high-risk behaviors. Intention is key because usually people who do these things may say they do not intend to take their own life, yet the behavior they practice throws caution to the wind. It is widely believed in the mental health field that a person who can take their own life has a high probability of taking the lives of others, and often murder-suicides have been seen on the news. Suicide bombers as well as people who kill loved ones and then kill themselves have demonstrated this. Then there is “suicide by cop” when a person does not have the nerve to take their own life so they point a toy gun, or unloaded gun, at a police officer hoping the officer will kill them. As a former ambulance paramedic, I have seen first-hand everything I am mentioning here in this post. Intentions may come on suddenly and a person kills themselves without much thought or that person may ruminate about killing themselves. I would guess that just about everyone at some point in their life will have some sort of suicidal ideation, or ideas and feelings of taking their own life. Suicidal ideations should always be taken seriously and the more details a person has put into such ideas the more apt they are to carry out such ideas. In the U.S. it has been reported that approximately 2,000 people attempt suicide everyday, but this is only reported cases and the total actual number is possibly double or triple that. I believe in suicide prevention, primarily because we live in a temporal existence and no matter the situation, even this too will pass. I have also seen lots of debilitated people, missing arms, legs, or wheel chair bound like Dr. Stephen Hawkins, rise and achieve great things unimaginable. Still I have mixed feelings because while I believe in, and practice, suicide prevention, I also believe that a person has the right to determine when and how they want to die. As far as what happens to them in the afterlife, human death is a highly subjective and intimate experience which I believe has countless possibilities, just like human life. |
Well, I have a different opinion to those who have illnesses who want to take their own life.
I remember a podcast that talked about the opinions of doctors on how they’d like to die, and the majority had very different ideas from the general population not in the medical field. They opted that if they had a terminal illness of no signs of recovering, they’d volunteer to be euthenized. As doctors, they’ve seen several people dying and have died multiple times before. Most people want to extend their lives more and more, but what is the point of living if you don’t find joy in it? Most at their worst would be stuck in their beds all day barely moving, and have to face their loved ones with horror at their condition. What better an ending to life with a higher vibration if people don’t overextend their lives? They could say their final goodbyes to their loved ones, dedicate their money and resources to donations as their last charity, and peacefully pass away. Choosing death is not always a decision made out of fear. Sometimes it’s made in the feeling of bravery — whether it’s like the cases above, or whether someone sacrifices their lives for others to save them. |
I think the simple consequence of suicide is that one is dead.
Everything else is pretty much made up, mostly to keep one from doing it. A biological imperative translated into the mental sphere. |
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What few people think about is that suicide and what leads up to it - whatever that may be - is an experience as much as any other. Does Spirit attach stigma to suicide or does Spirit perceive suicide as a 'valid' Life's experience? Is there a reason you as a Spirit can't experience suicide as part of your Life's Purpose/Karmic obligations? And if so, does that still make suicide low vibrational? Because really, if you define something as 'low vibrational' that's judgement and it's a reflection of you and that's what many people who use the term don't understand. Gotta Love the irony. Who says they have lost themselves? Suicide is a sovereign choice just the same as any other choice that's made - including the one to be Spiritual. In Spirit there is Unconditional Love, and that means Love without conditions. Judgement is a condition, the stigma attached to suicide is a condition, not applying many of the cornerstones of Spirituality that we'd apply to ourselves as 'Spiritual people' is a condition. It's in threads like these where we really need to stand back from ourselves and take a damn good look at ourselves in the mirror because the subject of suicide is not about 'them', it's about us. |
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Well said, this is an excellent post. Often what we call a problem is not the problem; often the problem is our perception of the situation and not the situation itself. I do not believe that our deeper being is damaged by us taking our life, although our perception may be skewed. But it is interesting that one often takes their life to escape a situation, not knowing what they are escaping to. There is a perception that death will automatically bring a relief from what they are trying to escape, but thinking the problem/issue is the location ignores that the issue may be more internal than that. The feeling which one probably seeks in taking their life may be similar to the comfort of returning to the womb, a carefree state. Suicides are on the rise; this week alone in the U.S. we have heard of two prominent public figures who have taken their life. But the biggest increase is among teenagers and the elderly. Celebrity suicides can impact, and influence, those in the general public who are suicidal themselves. An while it appears that most suicides are due to depression, I think we need to start looking at mental illness the same way that we view physical illness, notwithstanding, not all suicides are due to mental illness. |
And so another member here brought to my attention that Anthony Bourdain has commit suicide. He just didn't appear to be 'depressed' or 'suicidal' which adds more credence to Greenslade's thoughts.
I didn't comment on your comments Greenslade but agreed with what you said wholeheartedly. |
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