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ameliorate 09-11-2020 12:00 PM

A skeptical neuro scientist had an NDE!
 
This is a good example to bring up when encountering anyone sceptical of NDE's!


I was just listening to The Unexplained by Howard Hughes (a regular Sunday evening broadcast on Talk Radio at 10 p.m in UK) when I heard about a fascinating case of NDE because it not only involved a skeptic but a neurosurgeon who dismissed such experiences as fantasies.


Then HE himself had an NDE (during a coma brought on by having meningitis). Read about his experience here.


https://ndestories.org/dr-eben-alexander/

Miss Hepburn 09-11-2020 02:03 PM

Dr. Eben is the most famous guy.
His book is not that good...His 1 hr + talk on it to an audience is the thing to watch ---didn't click the link above.
There are other MDs, also, this happened to ...less famous.
Their miracle, as they tell it ---is how it changed them to be kinder.
(Apparently MDs can get very cold and think about $$ a lot.)

bobjob 09-11-2020 02:26 PM

Alexander has been around, along with his book and his talks, for a couple of years or more. Useful for some I guess.....

bobjob 09-11-2020 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
(Apparently MDs can get very cold and think about $$ a lot.)


Well hush my mouth - I can't believe anyone could think such such a thing! :D :D :D

Miss Hepburn 09-11-2020 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bobjob
Well hush my mouth - I can't believe anyone could think such such a thing! :D :D :D

I left out golfing and investments and schedules in general.
NO true caring for the person....one MD's own admission.

bobjob 09-11-2020 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
I left out golfing and investments and schedules in general.
NO true caring for the person....one MD's own admission.


shock, horror! :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:

inavalan 09-11-2020 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
I left out golfing and investments and schedules in general.
NO true caring for the person....one MD's own admission.

There are people, and there are people, in every profession. Even among politicians, priests, gurus, journalists, ... :)

I read some place, can't remember where, that from spiritual point of view the worst professions are journalists, priests, and lawyers. The statement stuck in my mind, but unfortunately later I couldn't trace back where I read it (although I vividly remember where in the page that statement was!)

If you think of the amount of pain and suffering an MD has to face everyday, you realize that they couldn't do their jobs if they get emotional, and they couldn't have a life, and a family if they didn't distance themselves from their jobs. They are taught to distance themselves from the patient and focus on the illness and on what they can do.

Money wise, medical school, professional insurance cost outrageously, and the social importance of the work done by MDs is extremely high. That doesn't mean that they should be put on a pedestal either.

There are others disproportionally paid more.

I dislike more those who sell hope.

It's always difficult to put yourself in somebody else's shoes.

Disclaimer: I am no MD, and have no other personal acquaintance with any MD except a 29 year old niece that just graduated psychiatry.

SpiritualFreedom 04-12-2020 01:13 AM

Eben Alexander MD

Here giving a presentation at the monroe institute: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7TXtV5s9mw


Here is the thing, we're inmortal spiritual being having a temporal human life for the purpose of lowering our entropy, get rid of our fears, our ego and becoming love.


Is actually really good to be skeptical, because I was skceptical too!

I started to ready about Out of body books lauguing because I was thinking "Seriously, how can people actually believe this thing?. This cannot be real"

But the difference, was to actually go out there & do it by myself into 1st hand experience.

I wanted to test it by myself.


So I managed to research a strategy to do it by reading various books/authors, and then practice it consistenly for about 30 days.

Week NÂș3 I had my very first Out of body experience, and IT WAS REAL! I couldn't believe it!

It was like OMG! I have been lied all my life thinking I am human being, but I am truly an spiritual being!

How I didn't knew this earlier? Why nobody told me that I could do this?


From then one, it really changed my life for the better, and I just have no words to tell HOW GRATEFUL I am for this authors to have published this books.

Specially Robert Monroe, god bless him for taking the courage to publish his books at the risk of being called crazy by our current society paradigm.

utopiandreamchild 19-03-2021 09:14 PM

Well I'm still a bit skeptical when it comes to God and spirit but I'm trying to accept them with love and understanding in my heart. Amen

bobjob 20-03-2021 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by utopiandreamchild
Well I'm still a bit skeptical when it comes to God and spirit but I'm trying to accept them with love and understanding in my heart. Amen


As long as you are still having to try, love and understanding is more imagined than real.


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