Life on other planets
 

I watched a BBC documentary on "The Planets" last night.

Mars was the focus of this particular film. It is quite clear now that there is no life on Mars. But in the past there may have been life on Mars, for the planet once had rivers, lakes, and perhaps even seas.

Therefore the scientists are now shifting their focus from soils and the search for living things today to the rocks and fossilized life forms from the past. It is a known fact that meteorites whose origin was Mars are sitting here on Earth.

When Apollo 12 went to the surface of the Moon, she brought back pieces of the Surveyor craft that had preceded her there. Among the items returned was the TV camera.

The guy who worked with that camera here on Earth, before the launch of the Surveyor, had a cold. When the camera was brought back to Earth it still contained some of the cold germs from one of his sneezes.

The germs had been on the Moon for something like 3 years. They had been exposed to intense solar radiation, including ultraviolet. They had undergone temperature extremes ranging from about 250 degrees below zero to 250 above zero, and were in the near-perfect vacuum of space.

When the germs were put in a petri dish....They came right back to life as if nothing had happened, flourished and multiplied.

Our ideas as to what is necessary to foster and sustain life have changed a lot in the past 35 years. Submarine thermal vents are one among several types of "alien" environments that support life here on Earth. Life can come into being in the absence of sunlight, with no oxygen; it can exist in conditions of extreme cold and extreme heat, even where liquid water is available for only a few hours each year.

That is the one requirement of all known life forms: water.

All planets have life on them and they support our own.

We don't see as they are of different frequencies to our own.


Can I prove this? No. It's been accessed through other non scientific ways :wink:

Blessings
Abikisses _/\_

The Universe is full of life.

We are actually part of all that there IS, we are part of the sun, the Universe that we live in, and we are also part of all other planets, can you dig it ?.:smile:

This is from my post on another current thread on this topic:


Greybeard: The universe holds an uncounted, and probably uncountable, number of galaxies. Each galaxy contains billions of stars.... the Milky Way galaxy... contains an estimated 200-400 billion stars.

Yes... the math alone indicates we would be naively earth-centric indeed to believe there is no life beyond our own planet.


Then there's this except from science news, 21 Feb 2011, in The Telegraph, a reputable international newspaper and news service:

"Nasa research indicating that half of the stars in the universe are orbited by planets much like Earth has reignited speculation about the existence of alien life.

"Experts examining results from the Kepler telescope have identified more than 1,200 planets in orbit around distant stars, 54 of which are a similar size to Earth and in habitable zones from their suns.

"The research follows several recent discoveries which point to the possibility of life on other planets."


for specifics... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/8337518/Life-on-other-planets-latest-discovery-comes-after-string-of-recent-signs-of-extraterrestrials.html


Xan

I can dig it.

BBC is selling a bill of good IMHO. The universe is teeming with life.

Definition Of Life Expanding
 

The number of Goldilocks planets is huge. & this is just looking for life as we know it. We are constantly reassessing the parameters needed for Earth style life as they discover life in places on this planet where it was thought not to exist.

Really interesting tidbit about the cold germs.

I agree with what you say here. I can't remember where I've read about it, but I have read a study which claims both Mars and Venus contain life which cannot be seen with the human physical eye because they are of the ethereal body. (invisible to humans)

‘Martian Methane Reveals the Red Planet is not a Dead Planet’ NASA Article
 

NASA article about discovering methane on Mars shows that there is some sort of biological or geologic activity there.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ma...rsmethane.html

NASA found bacteria fossils in a Mars meteorite.
http://www.nasa.gov/audience/forstud...ture_1015.html

Goldilocks Planets
 

NASA expanding the type of life they’re looking for.
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news...ct_goldilocks/

Goldilocks planet-
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/universe/...1_feature.html

Documenting new organisms In California’s Mono Lake-
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/liv...oldilocks.html

The "bacteria" in the meteorite turned out not to be bacteria at all....
I quote from the link you offered us:

"In July, 1996, it was announced that Dr. David McKay, along with a team of scientists at Johnson Space Center (a division of NASA), had discovered possible fossils of bacteria in a meteorite named ALH84001 that came from Mars. It was found in the Allen Hills in Antarctica in 1984 after having landed there 12,000 years ago. While many scientists were excited at first, much of the proof offered fell apart. NASA said that after two years of study "a number of lines of evidence have gone away".

Several different chemicals and molecular structures were exciting because they looked similar to byproducts of life on Earth. However, these chemicals and structures can also be created without life. Some are even present in deep space on comets, and scientists do not think that they came from Martian life anymore.

Small spheres were observed in the meteorite which the scientists in 1996 claimed were the fossilized remains of bacteria. However, they are roughly 1000 times smaller than the smallest bacteria on Earth, so don't resemble any life thought to be possible. Organic (carbon containing) compounds were found with the spheres, but it turned out that the organic compounds became a part of the meteorite after it landed on Earth (possibly when water seeped in a couple times over the 12,000 years the rock laid in Antarctica). Carbon 14, an isotope found on Earth is present in the organic compounds, but not in the spheres."

To date, no signs of life have been found anywhere but on Earth. Certainly there is "life out there"; we just haven't found it yet.

Re: PANSPERMIA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj4Q1hPRoDs

Short video, full of information on how life may have very well originated on Mars. Evidence in found Meteors containing microbal fossils.

Also: Involving Titan, Jupiters moon...

"Panspermia hypothesis"

From Wikipedia

"It is hypothesized that large asteroid and cometary
impacts on Earth's surface may have caused fragments of
microbe-laden rock to escape Earth's gravity, suggesting
the possibility of transpermia.
Calculations indicate that a
number of these would encounter many of the bodies in
the Solar System, including Titan."

"On the other hand, Jonathan Lunine has
argued that any living things in Titan's cryogenic
hydrocarbon lakes would need to be so different
chemically from Earth life that it would not be possible for
one to be the ancestor of the other.[145]"


On the other hand...


Microbal lifeform has been found in California's Mono Lake", which thrives on Arsenic. Not Phospherous, as other microbal life.

Echoing Robert Lazar's statements, of Area 51 fame...

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4716745%3Futm_hp_ref%3Dscience

"Earthlings may be extreme latecomers to a universe full of life..."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2865886/Mars-warm-wet-entire-PLANET-Curiosity-rover-reveals-crater-mountain-exploring-giant-lake.html



NASA findings indicate water was prevalent in abundance from one area of research by the Rover.




Related to the "Face" and, "Pyramids" on Mars? Also, regarding biological origins... that we are actually, "Martians"?

My opinion is that Intelligence and Consciousness exists apart from physical form.
To be equated with Light.

So, yes, you make a good point, but, you are referring to something, then, which is non physical. No?

All terrestrial planets life is possible.

its extremely likely , in our galaxy alone there're 100 billion planets ,i think other life forms out there wonder if there's life outside their planet too lol

Yes, with the Big Bang there are finite time limits on the Universe. Einstein believes the Universe is infinite. Einsteins Universe is the title of the theory.

With time restraints lifted on the Universe, the probability of life in every corner of the Galaxies and/or Multiverses grows.

There is life everywhere.

Scientists are debating the presence of bacteria on meteorites as well, and NASA has confirmed that bacteria can and does survive in space, outside of the space stations without protection from space weathers.