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rijhumal 09-01-2023 05:06 PM

can the memory be erased completely
 
If some truamatic has happened and it is difficult to forget.can it is possible for saints to erase the memory from mind completely and he become unaware of what has happened.
Just like we did not know our previous births in this life time, can this be possible that we forget some thing of this life time completely.
memory can be wiped completely as person becomes unaware that nothing has happened

Mora321 26-01-2023 10:27 AM

I knew a woman that complained to me that 5 minutes after she had stolen money her memory of that theft would be gone.

She had a possessing spirit that wanted other targets softened up with nicotine

Miss Hepburn 26-01-2023 02:30 PM

I don't know about 'saints' erasing memories. But memories disappear all the time.
Ask anyone who deals with someone with dementia. So it's possible, sure.
And adults have no memories of certain abuses that happened in their childhood, all the time.
I wonder if a professional medical hypnotherapist could help?

boyce 26-01-2023 07:24 PM

Anyone's memories may be disappearing at any time but how would you know what's disappeared after you've forgotten it/them? ;)

I'm not aware, though, that anyone is able to wipe the physical memory of us mortals, as much as that might be highly beneficial as in the case of extreme trauma, for example.

Mora321 27-01-2023 12:06 AM

"People who serve in the 20 and Back program get their memories deleted or suppressed."

https://solarchariot.medium.com/they...n-3b940833aa2b

"20 and Back" refers to careers in the Space Force.

https://tv.apple.com/gb/episode/frag...uc5etj8d75mdh9

boyce 27-01-2023 07:34 AM

My approach to all online material making whatever claim it makes is that it needs to be viewed with scepticism. Just because it's been posted there doesn't make it either fact or evidence.

FairyCrystal 27-01-2023 10:30 AM

A memory is nothing but a 'snapshot' of an event that is held by a neural network. Neural networks are held together by you yourself by constantly thinking / talking about it, and literally held together by a kind of glue. We have tons of such networks for everything in life and we can undo a network. It takes a little bit of time, but then the glue lets go and is used elsewhere so the 'old' network comes undone or changes.
A traumatic event leaves a strong imprint so will also take more time & effort to undo but can be done.
All that based on Dr Joe Dispenza's work.

Interesting thing is that at least 50% of our memories are not even correct. So we remember stuff -stick to them, convinced they're true- while they're not.

There are also techniques that can alleviate such things. The eye movement technique for one. This helps to remove the emotional load so the memory becomes less 'heavy'.
Not sure but I think on a deeper level this also alter that network of the memory.

Another thing is working through the issue yourself.

rijhumal 27-01-2023 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by boyce
Anyone's memories may be disappearing at any time but how would you know what's disappeared after you've forgotten it/them? ;)

I'm not aware, though, that anyone is able to wipe the physical memory of us mortals, as much as that might be highly beneficial as in the case of extreme trauma, for example.

He also don,t want to know it back when it disappeared. When he forget it he will enjoy life perfectly

Mora321 31-01-2023 05:53 AM

When I was 9 to 13 years old I was bullied at school. When the bullying stopped I lost all memory of it until my early 20s.

Where was the memory when it was gone? How did it come back?

Wisteria 24-10-2023 08:57 AM

Yes like Miss Hepburn stated dementia, also there is a method people use called escapism where they train themselves to day dream a lot, as a coping mechanism, this can take over and become addictive, and there is harm of them bringing their dreams into realities, it’s about finding balance, and knowing they not real here, but a good coping method used by even children and adults to cope with trauma, incl binge watching tv, and becoming immersed into the show.

But it is also said those who suffer will awaken quicker, because you have experienced suffering.

BigJohn 01-11-2023 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
I wonder if a professional medical hypnotherapist could help?


Sure can....!

AstralTraveller 13-11-2023 05:12 PM

In my opinion, it cannot be erased. It could be suppressed, but never erased. It's all energy, and energy is indestructible.

DesertRose 24-12-2023 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AstralTraveller
In my opinion, it cannot be erased. It could be suppressed, but never erased. It's all energy, and energy is indestructible.

I think so too, nothing 'vanishes', it just finds another form to continue 'existing'..

Altair 27-12-2023 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AstralTraveller
In my opinion, it cannot be erased. It could be suppressed, but never erased. It's all energy, and energy is indestructible.


If it changes then it can no longer be what it was.

DesertRose 27-12-2023 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Altair
If it changes then it can no longer be what it was.

But is it 'still there' or 'somewhere else' or 'gone'?

Altair 27-12-2023 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ScorpioRising
But is it 'still there' or 'somewhere else' or 'gone'?


Gone I think, if something changes then the old is gone.

winter light 27-12-2023 05:30 PM

Just found out about St. Dymphna, patron saint of mental disorders. She may be one to consider. Wish you good luck and hope you find the peace you are looking for.

I have found for whatever the issue, it must be a saint that I resonate with based on their story and the essence of their patronage. Reading about their story and then reflecting on their presence is a good way to open and sustain the healing process. Whenever you think about them they are there.

FallingLeaves 27-12-2023 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Altair
Gone I think, if something changes then the old is gone.


so since everything is forever changing, that means everything is always gone?

Altair 27-12-2023 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FallingLeaves
so since everything is forever changing, that means everything is always gone?


Unless it exists in the present, otherwise it has changed.

dream jo 21-02-2024 04:24 PM

[B don't know I don't
But my mum had dementia and she lost a lot of memories she did she remember something of 30 and 40 years ago some of the members of a memories was stolen because of her dementia
My uncle had Partners and my uncle had Parkinson's Disease and alzheimer's dementia with it and hey lost a lot of his memory is well
At only where the memories can be a raised can be erased
But that one I don't know I know some of the flashbacks I get I don't like
And I cannot erase them at a time I wish I could

BigJohn 21-02-2024 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
I wonder if a professional medical hypnotherapist could help?


A real good hypnotherapist can.

For example, some patients have had hypnosis performed on them and consequentially, experienced no pain from an operation.

Also, if a person goes back via hypnosis to the time of the trauma, they can 'relieve' the experience and instead of enhancing the trauma, become 'reborn' without the baggage from the trauma.

Gem 22-02-2024 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by rijhumal
can it is possible for saints to erase the memory from mind completely

Well, no, but is there a reason you ask?

duck2929 22-02-2024 01:12 PM

rijhumal, anyone can move forward even after living through disasters, nightmares and so on. Not saying it's easy, but it can be done.
I do know how hard it can hit on the moment though, try to remember it's just a passing phase.

When you heal from those things that happened, remembering them does not hurt or scare you anymore. And you have better things to think about anyway.

blackraven 25-02-2024 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rijhumal
Just like we did not know our previous births in this life time, can this be possible that we forget some thing of this life time completely.


rijhumal - I often view my own brain and memory system to be that like a computer. 1's and 0's, off or on. The older I get the more my memory mechanism begins to fail me. I can recall things that happened many years ago with accurate detail and yet I often can't remember what I just asked someone or the topic at hand that we are speaking about.

Then too, there are somethings in life that are too painful to recall. I know I intentionally push down and bury past events to a locked place within me. When those things remain locked up for so long, it's sometimes too hard to even bring them back up to my conscious surface. In this way I have essentially forgotten completely.


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